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Originally posted by Gazrok
Many pages later, bears saying again...the satellite was dead as soon as it launched. It's basically a 100kg piece of tumbling space junk, nothing to be worried about. The ONLY source of this EMP nonsense, is an article by Dr. Peter Pry, who is really just trying to sell his book based on this premise. Do you really think NK capable of launching some kind of 3rd gen space weapons system, when they just barely got this one in orbit (after quite a few previous failed crash and burn attempts)? This Pry guy is trying to capitalize on fear mongering to sell more copies, that's all.
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by steveo007
Yes, there are several news stories one can find on it. Launched in December of last year.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by penninja
What if they DO have a mini EMP on board and this thing is an utter fail? The'd be sitting there knowing that as soon as it's orbit decays and it falls we will go rushing to the location and realize there was weapons material on board and the NK is toast anyway....
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by Daedalus
I do, but lest people get too fired up and worried about the mega doom NK satellite above our heads, I thought it needed repeating.... Even assuming the worse case scenario, I seriously doubt an EMP device would be capable of affecting a very large target area...and given the numerous bases and communications methods available, would be a very localized problem.
anyway, i just wanted to say something, because it seemed during the thread you were constantly playing the part of "captain downer, stifler of creativity"
Originally posted by BlueAjah
In order to Deny Ignorance, should not every possibility be discussed?
To say that you "know" there is no weapon on the satellite is not possible.
Nuclear weapons can be very small.
Is this the article you mention?
news.investors.com...
This article makes a great deal of sense.
If something is a possibility, it is worth discussing.
To stifle that is to stick your head in the sand, and to attempt to pull a sheet over everyone else's head and ask them to not question anything.
That is what MSM and our government often do.
"everything is fine... don't listen to what you hear if it is not from us"
Originally posted by BlueAjah
reply to post by eriktheawful
Actually, intelligence is sketchy on what they actually have.
I have quoted sources about that - I'll go back and find them again.
And, North Korea has allies who are definitely not friends of the US.
There is no way to know what assistance they have.
We know that NK has nuclear weapons.
I have not seen anyone on here (including me) say that there is definitely a nuke on the satellite.
Just that it is a possibility worth considering.
It is not like this is an impossible scenario - as there is much documentation, including quoted in posts in this thread, that an EMP from an overhead device, including a satellite, is a real possibility.
The timing of this satellite launch, right when NK was testing their nukes, is worth considering.
The nukes they did test were low yield - just the kind needed for an emp.
It is not wild speculation, when something is a real possibility.edit on 4/11/13 by BlueAjah because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BlueAjah
reply to post by Bedlam
The orbit does not have to decay, and you don't have to have navigational control of a satellite to set off an EMP.
An EMP blast a few hundred miles above the earth is what will do the most damage.
They just have to be able to trigger something inside of the satellite when it is drifting over a target.edit on 4/11/13 by BlueAjah because: (no reason given)