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Originally posted by xavi1000
You americans are joking , NK will be hell to US , 250 000 is a joke , i expect 4-5 milions with ground troops ,
And dont forget the DOGS , THIS IS NOT IRAQ
Originally posted by goou111
reply to post by WhiteAlice
Yep they look real uniformed and disciplined.. Until the bombs start falling then they will be scattering like cock roaches when the light comes on
Originally posted by crazyewok
4) " policing North Korea will be as bad as Iraq and Afghanistan". Maybe not a stupid theory but unlikely. These are people who have been starved and live under a regime that would make Hitler feel pity for them. I have a feeling once the North Korean Army Break and the leaderships has been killed or captured it wont be that hard. Once these poor people realise there is a better world out there and more importantly food! they will be very happy to rejoin there south Korean Brothers. Just look at the amount of North Korean Defectors and even spys that have turned due to realising the truth.
Originally posted by crazyewok
I didnt even go into the whole bunker issue aswell.
From what little intel is and what defecter say the North is just one big complex of Bunkers and tunnels.
Now yes you have Bunker Busters. Good you will need them. But by the sounds of it you will need Tens of thousands of them. 1 bunker buster is only going do so much. You will also need to find them first.......
It will takes months to locate them all and then drop a bunker buster on them. Plus by what I have heard some of these tunnels are deep inside mountins and hill. A your best Bunker buster can only go 60m from what I hear.
Originally posted by Red Cloak
Originally posted by crazyewok
I didnt even go into the whole bunker issue aswell.
From what little intel is and what defecter say the North is just one big complex of Bunkers and tunnels.
Now yes you have Bunker Busters. Good you will need them. But by the sounds of it you will need Tens of thousands of them. 1 bunker buster is only going do so much. You will also need to find them first.......
It will takes months to locate them all and then drop a bunker buster on them. Plus by what I have heard some of these tunnels are deep inside mountins and hill. A your best Bunker buster can only go 60m from what I hear.
The bunker buster bombs would have very minimal worth against North Korea's hardened sites. Those sites were built based on Russian military designs and were designed to withstand nuclear bombs. All the bunker busters would do is cause damage above the ground. They would not do a thing to the actual underground facilities.
The bunker buster bombs would have very minimal worth against North Korea's hardened sites. Those sites were built based on Russian military designs and were designed to withstand nuclear bombs. All the bunker busters would do is cause damage above the ground. They would not do a thing to the actual underground facilities.
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by crazyewok
The bunker buster bombs would have very minimal worth against North Korea's hardened sites. Those sites were built based on Russian military designs and were designed to withstand nuclear bombs. All the bunker busters would do is cause damage above the ground. They would not do a thing to the actual underground facilities.
This is true of the standard "bunker busters" we used in Iraq...but against both Iran and NK, the new gen MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator) is a 30,000lb bomb that can penetrate 41m of rock (so just two to get to their most dug in bunkers). Guess how many a B-2 carries? That's right...2.
Of course, these were developed so we had a conventional option, instead of tactical nukes which would already reach suck targets. There's also the option of DU bunker busters, but I doubt we want the political fallout from them. (DU is denser, so more penetration power).
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Originally posted by TDawg61
250,000 my ass.How can anyone who saw how we outright dismantled Bagdad in minuits underestimate U.S.skill and hardware?Another anti-American fantasy.
Originally posted by crazyewok
Originally posted by TDawg61
250,000 my ass.How can anyone who saw how we outright dismantled Bagdad in minuits underestimate U.S.skill and hardware?Another anti-American fantasy.
O god another one
Do you guys forget vietnam?
North Korea is not Iraq, The terrain is complety diffrent and will be more like vietnam. Your great big bombs will not be a instant I WIN here
No I doubt it will not be 250,000 US dead (stupud figure). Most likey 25,000-50,0000 dead.
But please diffrent war diffrent place.
Its not Anti American just fact.
O and I am from the UK so as such we will mostly likely be going in too and at the front with you Americans like always. So I have no reason to laugh or gloat about allied deaths.
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Originally posted by NavyDoc
reply to post by crazyewok
1). Granted. Use of nukes in NK is problematic, but more from political fallout than nuclear fallout. First of all, the prevailing weather would take teh fallout east, so the only country that would be affected in any way would be Japan. What you fail to realize is that there are various yields of nuclear weapons in our arsenal and those of the "tactical" variety that we actually planned to use in the Fulda gap, could close portions of NK without large areas of fallout. Military "#wits" actually understand the weapons they plan to use, rather than taking their information from movies and television.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
2). Completely wrong. NK transportation and infrastructure is actually MORE vulnerable due to the terrain because, unlike Iraq with its wide open spaces, NK with its mountainous terrain is a series of choke points. It would be quite easy to cutoff lines of resupply and troop movement. Vietnam was over 40 years ago. Infrared and other sensor systems are quite a bit more advanced. Hiding large troop movements and armored vehicles will not be easy at all.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
3). They are quite correct. I see you have not studied history. In the original Korean war, we actually took over the whole peninsula and drove the communists out. MacArthur wanted to bomb the bridges over the Yalu river but the president did not permit this so a million Chinese came over those bridges and we were fought abck to the current lines. We lost the victory we had in our hands because we tied our own hands.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
4). We won't have to police the are after the war, SK will be glad to do so and the NK, once they see they actually get more food without communism will not revolt: see both Japan and Germany after WWII.