MSNBC Host: Your Kids Belong to the Collective

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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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Where's the gold confiscation in recent times?


That is where all that "fair share" and "make them rich folks pay" hullahalu comes in to play since they taxes have gone up, and they are still trying to take more money from them.

Takes hikes are confiscation just don't use the word to describe it.




Where are the FEMA camps that are in use?


That was in reference to "club Gitmo" was barbaric, but Japanese internment camps hardly ever get mentioned in the past 60 years.




I just can't fathom comparing anybody in today's political arena to people who lived 70 years ago. At least not to that extent.


There really is no difference people are the same as they ever was, going back even further the same arguments we hear today Americans have been having since pretty much the beginning of the Us.
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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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I will cede to that logic friend.

Touche.

~Tenth



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:39 PM
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I still maintain the RightWing/consertatives has a more Fascist agenda.


I will disagree as the topic : MSNBC Host: Your Kids Belong to the Collective

From: Mein Kampf:


"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler, Publ. Houghton Miflin, 1943, Page 403


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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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You said SPECIFICALLY and I QUOTE:

I'll be honest, when you compare the modern liberal to the people that worshiped Hitler before ww2, there is a striking resemblance.

To the people that worshiped Hitler before ww2. That was all I said. And as others have posted in this thread, you can clearly see the resemblance. The gun grabbing is a major issue that directly conflicts with our 2nd amendment. It's obvious that this administration is clearly against the right to own firearms. The entire nanny state being put in place from what we eat to the type of business we own.

Look, that wasn't even what I was comparing this to, it's the mentality of it all. You have 95% of the black population voting Democrat. Do you think our President being black is a coincidence? Honestly? The man was given a peace prize without doing a damn thing. The media completely ignores everything this administration does, including running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Why? It's state run media.

You want to know where I'm coming from when I make those statements? This is it. I have no link to justify the way that I think. I can explain to you why, but if that's not good enough, I'm sorry that CNN hasn't picked up my thought process.


The federal government had nothing to do with a New York city law. Please don't confuse local, state and federal interference.

Besides, the Federal government has no right, or should have no right to meddle in the affairs of the state. You don't like the law? Challenge it, get petitions for a ballot vote.

Actually, it does. As I said, the Federal Government has a job to protect the rights of the citizens of this union. Politicians, Mayors or Governors that actively wish to subvert the US constitution should be tried for treason. Again, the state run liberal media refuses to speak on behalf of the citizens.


I don't see how you could encourage folks to stop thinking red vs blue, while your OP creates the illusion that one side is better than the other.

I am neither Republican nor Democrat. There is no PARTY with me. I want the best man (or woman) available to FIX my country. I don't hate Democrats and I don't love Republicans. I spoke out just the same about the bullcrap Bush did. But people do need to get over this red vs blue garbage. All it does is divide this nation.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Bioshock






I am neither Republican nor Democrat. There is no PARTY with me. I want the best man (or woman) available to FIX my country. I don't hate Democrats and I don't love Republicans. I spoke out just the same about the bullcrap Bush did. But people do need to get over this red vs blue garbage. All it does is divide this nation.


But don't you see that is exactly what you did in this thread by insulting and comparing a section of the electorate to Hitler worshipers? That wasn't hateful?

sheesh....
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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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No, I don't think it was hateful because I stand behind my statement. Those people were not evil, they were simply misled. And that's honestly what I see when I look at the woman on welfare standing there crying for Obama like he's the 2nd coming of Christ. Call it racism, liberalism, stupidity... whatever. Those are the people that I'm talking about. The man can do no wrong in their eyes and to a certain extent, most Democrats simply because they refuse to separate themselves from their party.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Bioshock

Look, that wasn't even what I was comparing this to, it's the mentality of it all. You have 95% of the black population voting Democrat. Do you think our President being black is a coincidence? Honestly? The man was given a peace prize without doing a damn thing. The media completely ignores everything this administration does, including running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Why? It's state run media.


From what I remember the media ignored a lot of bush "mistakes" as well, especially in relation to the events of 9-11-2001 and what transpired from the complete coverup since then.



I am neither Republican nor Democrat. There is no PARTY with me. I want the best man (or woman) available to FIX my country. I don't hate Democrats and I don't love Republicans. I spoke out just the same about the bullcrap Bush did. But people do need to get over this red vs blue garbage. All it does is divide this nation.


Democrats and republicans tend to be "what kind of globalism do you want"? What flavor ice cream.
Very few honest politicians left in either party. And third parties don't get talked about cause apparently they are taboo.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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It's taboo because it's the answer. And it's a damn shame that we can't have honest politicians in this country. So much pride and history yet no honest men to defend it? It's really not so much to ask for.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:06 PM
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See now that' you've better explained yourself, I pretty much agree
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~Tenth



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Bioshock
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No, I don't think it was hateful because I stand behind my statement. Those people were not evil, they were simply misled. And that's honestly what I see when I look at the woman on welfare standing there crying for Obama like he's the 2nd coming of Christ. Call it racism, liberalism, stupidity... whatever. Those are the people that I'm talking about. The man can do no wrong in their eyes and to a certain extent, most Democrats simply because they refuse to separate themselves from their party.


There are plenty of reasons for you to hate Obama, but him appealing to a demographic shouldn't be one of them.
I remember rabid Palin supporters.

Criticize Obama because he broke his promise to end the wars. That's my reason for bailing on his presidency. And I really resent being lumped in with Hitler devotees because at one time I believed him. You are guilty of being divisive as any partisan. Actually your partisanship shines brighter than a neon sign.
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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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The want your kids and your money.......any wonder they want your guns?



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Bioshock
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


It's taboo because it's the answer. And it's a damn shame that we can't have honest politicians in this country. So much pride and history yet no honest men to defend it? It's really not so much to ask for.




Can't win with a shoe-string budget virgil goode. Why the shoe-string budget though?



Gary Johnson explains people vote for the lesser of TWO EVILS!



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by terriblyvexed
Wow ok, that's not creepy at all.

I think we are becoming socialists, little by little.

My kids came home yesterday to tell me how they learned to
barter at school. They made things then traded to get what they wanted.

Not make things people wanted then learn to sell it, and how to haggle.

It is just kids though maybe teaching trade, and not capitalism wasn't the
goal. Just having fun, so I'll over look it, but if my kids come home saying
they learned how great socialism, or communism is. The fights on.


Bartering is just an early form of capitalism. Think about it for a second, exchanging a good or service for a good or service is the same as exchanging a good or service for money in order to pay for a good or service. It just cuts out the monetary middle man. It is still capitalism. A lot of large corporations will make nonmonetary exchanges like this. Definitely NOT socialism or communism.

And you still have to report it as income to the IRS.

www.irs.gov...



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:30 PM
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Hmm...so, she didn't use the word state once...

and within the first few comments, they heard she said kids belong to state...not the whole community, but the state.

man..wonder what the sky is like in weirdworld..probably bright red.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteAlice
Bartering is just an early form of capitalism. Think about it for a second, exchanging a good or service for a good or service is the same as exchanging a good or service for money in order to pay for a good or service. It just cuts out the monetary middle man. It is still capitalism. A lot of large corporations will make nonmonetary exchanges like this. Definitely NOT socialism or communism.

And you still have to report it as income to the IRS.

www.irs.gov...



Makes ya wanna cry, doesn't it.

"omg, socialism! they want us to..trade..for good verses use paper! might as well bring in the ghost of Karl Marx for the next potus!"

Denying Ignorance indeed.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by Bioshock
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No, I don't think it was hateful because I stand behind my statement. Those people were not evil, they were simply misled. And that's honestly what I see when I look at the woman on welfare standing there crying for Obama like he's the 2nd coming of Christ. Call it racism, liberalism, stupidity... whatever. Those are the people that I'm talking about. The man can do no wrong in their eyes and to a certain extent, most Democrats simply because they refuse to separate themselves from their party.


There are plenty of reasons for you to hate Obama, but him appealing to a demographic shouldn't be one of them.
I remember rabid Palin supporters.

Criticize Obama because he broke his promise to end the wars. That's my reason for bailing on his presidency. And I really resent being lumped in with Hitler devotees because at one time I believed him. You are guilty of being divisive as any partisan. Actually your partisanship shines brighter than a neon sign.
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Actually he ended the wars for the most part. What I blame him more for is the ENDLESS BAILOUTS to big business with nothing to show for his shallow and dishonest rhetoric. Helping the muslim brotherhood fight proxy wars against 40 year old dictators isn't too bad in my book, although I would prefer if we didn't get involved at all since we are POOR! Better to feed americans that are loosing their jobs to the chineese slave worforce.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 06:40 PM
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I haven't read any other replies yet but, just let me say this...

My children belong to me and they are MY responsibility...

You know how I can say that as 100% Fact?

My main point is that I carried them inside my body and endured all the pain during child birth...not the "community"

I have cooked for them, I have fed them, I have bathed them and I have put them to bed every night of their existence...not the "community".

I have nurtured, consoled and comforted them. I have taught them good morals and values...not the community.

I have paid for their education, their clothing, their sporting events and their
"what-nots".....not the community.

Believe me when I say that my children are MINE and I certainly know them and what's best for them, more than the "community".

The community can certainly contribute to my children's life experiences but, they will never be the community's children.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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Collective ! Wanna hear something creepy ? Here in Australia ,on our version of X Factor .They created a young boy band to rival One Direction ( boy band with cult like status for teenie booper's). They called them the Collective.
Creepy or what ?
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posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 07:15 PM
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Clearly the state owning your kids is nonsense, and this sort of rhetoric is extreme, but then again so is the way this article is presented. Infowars is notorious for making a mountain out of a mole hill.


Actually, it is true that the state owns our children. In the US, parents are granted custody of their children by state.

A custodian does not own the building/property. He only "maintains" it on behalf of the actual owner. Which is why, if we do not "maintain" our children in a manner the state finds acceptable, they can take our kids away from us.



posted on Apr, 6 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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It is the progressives that seek a fundamental transformation of the US.


Always amuses me how we all divide at this point.

That's the crux of it. One believes the US needs foundational changes or one doesn't.

You read something horrible with that statement and I read something hopeful. Guess that makes me a progressive, eh?






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