reply to post by Honor93
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Southern Guardian
so, did your visitors have permission to be on your property ?
if so, then no, they were not likely trespassing.
I rented a town house that really had open ground with a small back, not much distinguished property to begin with so I've had many people come up to
my door that I did not know, uninvited, merely confused that they came to the wrong town house. They were not trespassing in my eyes, my visitors who
came to the house to see me only to find I was not home, they were not trespassing.
that sounds more like a community with gates, not a 'gated community'.
in a 'gated community', visitors are stopped at the point of entry and verified before entry.
Nope, this was a gated community, and visitors were allowed freely in at times.
as for you not being home, then yes, they could have been arrested as trespassers, especially if they were on your neighbor's
Firstly, we're not debating whether it's trespassing if they are on your private property clearly against the owners consent. In Gated communities
it's not as if you have to walk from one private property to another to get to your destination, don't be silly. There are paths, walkways that are
not owned by any particular owner, otherwise how are people to visit one person without entering private property? Seems abit silly doesn't it?
Secondly my cousin visited me on afew occasions, as did family members, friends, when I was not there, and they simply left when they did not find me.
I had many of them go to the wrong town houses when I first moved in and my neighbors at the time were sane and competent enough to understand they
were not trespassing. So again I fail to see your logic here.
Let's also not forget that:
(1) There is no evidence that Trayvon was on the private property of any particular owner
(2) His fathers girlfriend lived in that area where his father frequented, the direction from where Trayvon was moving to. He was a visitor
unless you can reference us where Brandy, a resident there, his father's girlfriend, stated that Trayvon was not welcome or not 'invited' that
night, you're not making a good argument regarding 'trespassing'. It isn't open season on visitors simply because you don't personally know them,
it's not within the power of one owner to dictate who can visit another. Where do you get your logic?
Let's go back to the definition of trespassing under Florida law:
Each category of Trespass can be committed in one of two ways:
Willfully entering or remaining on some form of real property without authorization, license, or invitation; or
Returning to or ignoring a prior request to stay off real property.
Was Trayvon not invited by Brandy, his fathers girlfriend, a resident there? No. She disputed nothing of the sort.
Was Trayvon willfully up to no good on somebody else's property? No, there's no evidence of this, you've shown us absolutely nothing. Emphasis on
'willfully' because if you ever lived in a gated community, you'd fine that alot of people more than often find themselves accidentally on another
owners property, at the wrong town house. It happens alot, especially in gated communities with indistinguishable townhouses.
I can't believe I'm explaining this all to you, this is common sense is it not??
you, can get your own sources, thanks.
uh no, you need to put the sources and facts where your mouth is. Where
in the law does it show that Trayvon was trespassing. Please, we're