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Originally posted by netobrev
Am I the only one who reads John Titor civil war prediction as taking a long time to get started. I think he was saying most people don't even relalize it until around 2008 when it will be at everyones door step. It's not like the # is going to hit the fan over night people. As John said, it starts out with very small waco type events and with our mainstream media, most of them problaby just get a small blurb in the paper and will be down played.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by AssassinWell, look up more for yourself... John Titor
We have an extensive Titor archive right here on ATS, the result of the hard work of many members:
Originally posted by W4rl0rD
Another big one is his claims of Civil Unrest and indeed a Civil War in the US in 2004/2005. (He actually contradicts himself a few times, saying 2005 instead of 2004 and vice versa).
The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse.
This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.
Now, we haven't seen any Waco type events so far. Nor any Civil Unrest leading up to this coming election.
Another large thing with all of Titor's comments and predictions. Is that he never once mentioned 9-11, the Bali Bombing, the Madrid Bombings, the Invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq. In fact nothing about the war on terror at all.
He does however comment on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict (the Intifada started in September 2000, so that had already happened when he started posting). He claims this conflict has a hand in bringing the US into civil war. As it stands, this conflict has settled down somewhat, and there are far far greater international issues that affect the US.
Now, why would Titor post a fake picture of his 'Time Machine' in action?
Why would he be wrong about the start of a Civil war in the US?
Why would he not mention the War on Terror or any of the attacks/invasions?
Simply put, because his story is a hoax. A quite well researched and executed hoax. But a hoax nonetheless. My guess is he didn't click about the light-bending picture (or perhaps didn't notice the error). He was guessing about the Civil war. At the time there was a big fuss about the 2000 US elections, (he hinted that Florida's votes would be discounted at one stage). He timed the 'civil war' to start around the next US elections. Fairly safe guess at the time because it was still 4 years down the track. He didn't mention the War on Terror because he didn't know, he, like the rest of us, didn't see it coming.
What other errors and inconsistencies are out there in Titors posts? This is just from a cursory look.
This was also posted by Kano,use the search option nubs
It has already been proven;YES!THIS IS A DAMN HOAX!
[edit on 2/11/04 by W4rl0rD]
Originally posted by SomewhereInChina
You stole my Avatar!!!!!!
Originally posted by EmbryonicEssence
...however, if Bush wins, there could possibly be riots very similar to the 1992 riots that happened in Los Angeles, but on a national scale. A lot of the people I've been talking to keep on mentioning this.
[edit on 11-3-2004 by EmbryonicEssence]
I think that before anybody judges this they should consider that
there is quite a bit of civil unrest at this point, Never in history has there been such a nasty finger pointing election not to mention the tires slashed here, and confiscated voting machines there, I think that currently America is very divided and this saddens me greatly I saw a post earlier that said we should put the whole thing behind us and I hope that is what happens and we return to the pre-election United States intead of republicans and democrats battling it out.
Originally posted by Assassin
Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?
...Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.
Weapon of Mass Destruction
This term for a nuclear, biological, or chemical weapon is older than you might think. It actually dates to 1937, before the existence of nuclear or biological weapons. It was first used by the London Times on 28 December of that year, "Who can think without horror of what another widespread war would mean, waged as it would be with all the new weapons of mass destruction?" The original reference is to aerial bombing of cities, which had become a reality that year in the Spanish Civil War, chemicals, and other modern weaponry.
In the 1960s, the term weapons of mass destruction became a jargon term of the arms control community. Throughout the rest of the 20th century, the term pretty much remained an arms control jargon term, until 2002 when events in Iraq brought the term into the public eye.