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Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by LUXUS
Maybe categories like: Action, Reaction, Form would help to better assess miracles?
e.g. In the example of The laying on of hands, where exactly is the miracle?
Action: faith and prayer
Reaction: cure or alteration of the physical
Form: the physical touch of the other persons
Where is the miracle? Action, reaction, form?
Another example since u2 like Buddhist stuff:
Action: Faith and meditation
Reaction: Energy movement or alteration of the physical
Form: Energy created by the body
Where's the miracle?edit on 4/5/2013 by Bleeeeep because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LUXUS
Casting my mind back to deep antiquity and moving forward to modern times I found that all miraculous events could be placed into seven categories:
1, Events caused by the intervention of multidimensional entity's eg spirits, Gods, daemons and creatures from other realms.
2, Events caused by the personal energy of a human eg the moving of an object by the mind or the levitation of a saint/ yogi.
3, Events caused by being in a specific location eg a holy well that miraculously cures sickness or a sacred temple infused with an unknown energy.
4, Events caused by touching of being near an object which has magical ability's eg a crystal, stone, amulet, sword, cup. Some object which appears to have power which is not observed in common objects.
5, Events caused by unusual substances eg the transmutation of lead into gold, potions ointments "he drank from the flask and was restored to a condition of youth"
6, Events caused by sound/music eg "he played on a golden lyre and the music caused stones to move/dance" or "he whispered a sacred word into her ear and she was instantly cured"
7, Events caused by alinements/ timings, the unknown influence of planets/stars eg "he prepared himself for this time on this day as it was only then that this miracle could be preformed."
It is my understanding that every miraculous event that has ever been preformed or witnessed since deep antiquity can be placed into one of these seven categories.
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by LUXUS
What many people fail to understand (I sometimes forget, too!) is that for something to happen it must adhere to certain conditions, thereby making it Non-miraculous.
To imagine someone floating in the air without any of the criteria listed above, without cause and effect, is just wishful thinking. Miracles cannot happen without cause and effect, and cause and effect makes it not a miracle.
Children believe that something can happen "Just because". But, hopefully they grow out of it.