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It is up to the citizens of North Korea to decide that, not the U.S and not China.
We really need to get out of the business of "liberating" other nations.
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by Hopechest
It is up to the citizens of North Korea to decide that, not the U.S and not China.
We really need to get out of the business of "liberating" other nations.
Originally posted by Hopechest
I hope they are planning on taking out the NK regime along with China. The people over there are in dire need of help and if there ever were a case for intervention to save lives I'd say there's no better example than NK.
Maybe we take out their air defenses and their leadership and China has their military leaders ready to begin a coup followed by a stable government and a ton of UN aid following closely behind.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by Hopechest
It is up to the citizens of North Korea to decide that, not the U.S and not China.
We really need to get out of the business of "liberating" other nations.
I'd be happy to if Kim would get out of the business of threatening to nuke other nations. The threats to the Mainland United States are getting tiresome. The statement by David Cameron that they COULD hit Britain is worrisome. I don't see how that can be true and they COULD NOT hit the Continental United States as well. I have a bad feeling we're being outrigt lied to about the capabilties of our enemy ...but enemy they are and have been dire ones for 6 decades. Kim Un decided to push it to a head ... Well... ultimately, it's his choice I believe.
If no weapons fire from launchers inside his borders ...it would be a real good start. That's starting to look more and more questionable as I question his mental state in a true clinical sense.edit on 5-4-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Golf66
Originally posted by Flyers Fan
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Ok, NOW I'm really getting an ungood feeling here.
If you see US Army Japan troops activate and civilians being evac'd from Camp Zama and Kadena and Atsugi and Yokuska (etc) in Japan ... THEN you should get nervous. Then I'd say we are close. Their mission is to support S. Korea if anything were to happen. They'd be the first ones in ...
But right now .. it's all 'green' there and no civilian/dependent evac's.
I checked their websites.
While I tend to agree with you here - they are not evacuating the dependants from S. Korea is a sign that the administration is not really too worried about an all out strike on Seoul or the surrounding areas.
There is another angle (admittedly a dark one) to consider...
The US needs the civilian deaths to generate sufficient "outrage" in the population at large to ensure the administration is able to enter into another open ended conflict without any negative impact on their poll numbers.
I for one think that this administration along with others but especially this one wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice a few thousand military dependants to get their agenda advanced and to protect the "Dear Leaders" legacy.
I just wanted to throw this in. Strangely enough when I was in the forward Tank Battalion at Camp Casey we were on alert because the North was dropping leaflets and telling the farmers to be ready to help their brothers from the North when they come down to liberate them from the U.S. One of the tank companies would have to go down South to protect the airfield while American dependents were evacuated. This wouldn't happen until the North actually crossed the border. The plan has changed now so I don't feel I'm saying anything I shouldn't be saying. But I found it strange that the evacuation wouldn't happen until the North came across the border. So I don't think that is something to watch for. Now if we were going to do a preemptive strike, maybe they would evacuate early.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Sometimes people don't have the means and need some help.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by howmuch4another
Yeah, I remember that one. That was impressive considering what a POC the B-1 is, and has been for years. I had a crew chief tell me several years ago that there is no such thing as a Fully Mission Capable B-1 bomber, never has been, and never will be. Every one of them has some kind of problem somewhere in the system.
One of the scarier things is that they only put three generators on them to lighten the weight and let them go supersonic. What this means is that when taking off, they have to choose between navigation and deicing.