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Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is interesting. Russia has come out and told North Korea to shut up. China has also had enough. Instead of a world war that we are fear and dread it rather looks like it will be the world V North Korea, it seems to me the major super powers are now going to at the very least contain North Korea and if need be take out North Korea if one missile should fly.
So no boom boom today. Not over North Korea anyway. Boom Boom Tomorrow perhaps but not over North Korea anyway.
Originally posted by snowspirit
Neither one of those countries wants a nuclear war, with the US and SK, going on in a country that they both share a border with. A little too close for comfort.
here is the link www.china.org.cn...
General Pace Meets with Top Military Officers
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Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, arrived in Beijing on Thursday for a four-day visit, a sure sign of improving ties between the two armies.
Coming at the invitation of Chief of the General Staff of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Liang Guanglie, Pace's visit is the first paid by a high-ranking US military officer to China this year.
"Your visit is one of the most important items of the China-US military exchanges this year," Liang told Pace Thursday afternoon following a welcoming ceremony.
"I agree with you that this visit is very important for the two countries. I truly believe the future promises great things for both China and the United States," Pace said, shortly before entering closed-door talks at the seat of the Central Military Commission (CMC), China's top military authority.
Pace added he and Liang should "help each other, understand each other and find ways to do good things for the future of the two countries."
Liang described overall China-US military ties as seeing "good momentum of stable development", citing the progress on high-level exchanges between military institutions. He further stated China's hope to see military exchanges with the US deepen at all levels.
He said China would like to further military exchanges with the United States at various levels.
Addressing the Taiwan issue, Liang also re-affirmed China's stance, saying that Taiwan is an inalienable part of the Chinese territory and that a close watch has been kept on the Taiwan secessionists' actions. For his part, Pace confirmed that the US government will adhere to the one-China policy and expressed his hope of seeing the Taiwan issue resolved peacefully. To this end, Liang reiterated that "we will make our utmost efforts to safeguard the stability of the Taiwan Strait and push for a peaceful unification of the motherland."
The Taiwan issue has remained an obstacle between the two countries with repeated arms sales from the US to Taiwan. In late February, the US Department of Defense announced that it plans to sell to Taiwan over 400 missiles worth of US$421 million. The proposed sale will include Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air missiles, Maverick missiles, as well as spare parts and maintenance equipment.
Later Thursday afternoon, Pace met separately with Guo Boxiong and Cao Gangchuan, both of them Vice-Chairmen of the CMC.
"The current momentum of China-US military ties is not easily attained and it must be treasured by both sides," Guo said, before briefing Pace on China's path of peaceful development and about its defense policy.
Cao, who is also China's Defense Minister, reiterated that China's defense policy is based on self-defense, and that China's defense spending remained moderate.
During his visit, Pace will hold a seminar with PLA Military Science Academy researchers on Friday, before visiting several of China's military areas and institutions, including those in Shenyang and Nanjing.
sometimes the search puts out more than you want it too
US military chief to pay rare China visit
by Staff Writers
Washington (AFP) April 2, 2013
Top US military officer General Martin Dempsey will pay a rare visit to China this month as the Pacific powers discuss concern over tensions with North Korea, the Pentagon said Tuesday.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel confirmed Dempsey's visit when he paid a congratulatory telephone call to China's new defense minister, General Chang Wanquan, Pentagon spokesman George Little said.
Hagel "said he looks forward to hearing the results of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Marty Dempsey's trip to China later this month," Little said in a statement.
Little said that Hagel also invited Chang to visit the United States later this year.
The telephone call comes as the United States shifts its military in Asia in a show of force aimed at deterring North Korea, which has defied even its ally China in recent months with actions including a nuclear test.
Hagel told Chang of the "growing threat to the US and our allies posed by North Korea's aggressive pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs" and called for US-China cooperation, Little said.
The United States and China hold frequent talks but defense relations are less regular, with US policymakers perceiving the military as the most suspicious of the outside world among the power centers in Beijing.
China has frequently snapped off military contact with Washington to protest US military sales to Taiwan, which Beijing considers a territory awaiting reunification.
US law requires the administration to assist Taiwan, a self-governing democracy, in ensuring its self-defense.
Dempsey's predecessor, Admiral Mike Mullen, visited China in 2011 in what was the first trip by a US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in four years
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is interesting. Russia has come out and told North Korea to shut up. China has also had enough. Instead of a world war that we are fear and dread it rather looks like it will be the world V North Korea, it seems to me the major super powers are now going to at the very least contain North Korea and if need be take out North Korea if one missile should fly.
So no boom boom today. Not over North Korea anyway. Boom Boom Tomorrow perhaps but not over North Korea anyway.
We are to take your word for this ? No link's, just your statement ? China will back N.Korea to the hilt. This is a war by proxy on China . The only thing keeping a US military base of China's border is North Korea.That ain't going to happen. Would not like to be anywhere near a US military instillation in South Korea or Japan right now. These will be the first to go.
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is interesting. Russia has come out and told North Korea to shut up. China has also had enough. Instead of a world war that we are fear and dread it rather looks like it will be the world V North Korea, it seems to me the major super powers are now going to at the very least contain North Korea and if need be take out North Korea if one missile should fly.
So no boom boom today. Not over North Korea anyway. Boom Boom Tomorrow perhaps but not over North Korea anyway.
We are to take your word for this ? No link's, just your statement ? China will back N.Korea to the hilt. This is a war by proxy on China . The only thing keeping a US military base of China's border is North Korea.That ain't going to happen. Would not like to be anywhere near a US military instillation in South Korea or Japan right now. These will be the first to go.
Your about 50 years out of date. China's only interest in NK is keeping a massive starving mob from rushing its borders. In fact it would be more likely at this point for China to take actions against North Korea, to preserve its vital trade with the West, then it would be to take action to defend the North.
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China provided North Korea with arms and assistance, and the PLA and the Korean People's Army developed close ties because of their association in the Korean War. In 1961 China and North Korea signed a mutual defense agreement, and Chinese-North Korean military cooperation continued in the late 1980s.
yes China has had it with little Un but that does not mean we can make a first strike.
"Yes, there's a subtle shift in Chinese foreign policy...Over the short to medium term, that has the potential to affect the calculus in Northeast Asia," Kurt Campbell said at a forum hosted by the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.
"You've seen it at the U.N. (Security Council). We've seen it in our private discussions and you see it in statements in Beijing," he added.
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is interesting. Russia has come out and told North Korea to shut up. China has also had enough. Instead of a world war that we are fear and dread it rather looks like it will be the world V North Korea, it seems to me the major super powers are now going to at the very least contain North Korea and if need be take out North Korea if one missile should fly.
So no boom boom today. Not over North Korea anyway. Boom Boom Tomorrow perhaps but not over North Korea anyway.
We are to take your word for this ? No link's, just your statement ? China will back N.Korea to the hilt. This is a war by proxy on China . The only thing keeping a US military base of China's border is North Korea.That ain't going to happen. Would not like to be anywhere near a US military instillation in South Korea or Japan right now. These will be the first to go.
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by 13th Zodiac
Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is interesting. Russia has come out and told North Korea to shut up. China has also had enough. Instead of a world war that we are fear and dread it rather looks like it will be the world V North Korea, it seems to me the major super powers are now going to at the very least contain North Korea and if need be take out North Korea if one missile should fly.
So no boom boom today. Not over North Korea anyway. Boom Boom Tomorrow perhaps but not over North Korea anyway.
We are to take your word for this ? No link's, just your statement ? China will back N.Korea to the hilt. This is a war by proxy on China . The only thing keeping a US military base of China's border is North Korea.That ain't going to happen. Would not like to be anywhere near a US military instillation in South Korea or Japan right now. These will be the first to go.
Your about 50 years out of date. China's only interest in NK is keeping a massive starving mob from rushing its borders. In fact it would be more likely at this point for China to take actions against North Korea, to preserve its vital trade with the West, then it would be to take action to defend the North.