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When Jesus had said this, Philip
answered: 'We are content to serve
God, but we desire, however, to
know God. For Isaiah the prophet
said: "Verily thou art a hidden God,"
and God said to Moses his servant: "I am that which I am." Jesus answered: 'Philip, God is a good
without which there is naught good;
God is a being without which there is
naught that is; God is a life without
which there is naught that liveth; so
great that he filleth all and is everywhere. He alone hath no equal.
He hath had no beginning, nor will he
ever have an end, but to everything
hath he given a beginning and to
everything shall he give an end. He
hath no father nor mother; he hath no sons, nor brethren, nor companions.
And because God hath no body,
therefore he eateth not, sleepeth not,
dieth not, walketh not, moveth not,
but abideth eternally without human
similitude, for that he is incorporeal, uncompounded, immaterial, of the
most simple substance. He is so good
that he loveth goodness only; he is so
just that when he punisheth or
pardoneth it cannot be gainsaid. In
short, I say unto thee, Philip, that here on earth thou canst not see him nor
know him perfectly; but in his
kingdom thou shalt see him for ever:
wherein consisteth all our happiness
and glory.' Philip answered: 'Master, what sayest
thou? It is surely written in Isaiah that
God is our father; how, then, hath he
no sons?' Jesus answered: 'There are written in
the prophets many parables,
wherefore thou oughtest not to
attend to the letter, but to the sense.
For all the prophets, that are one
hundred and forty-four thousand, whom God hath sent into the world,
have spoken darkly. But after me
shall come the Splendour of all the
prophets and holy ones, and shall
shed light upon the darkness of all
that the prophets have said, because he is the messenger of God.' And
having said this, Jesus sighed and
said: 'Have mercy on Israel, O Lord
God and look with pity upon
Abraham and upon his seed, in order
that they may serve thee with truth of heart.
people will find fault because they want to be knowledgeable to others but I don't because I was asking God not men and it's the answered prayer that stands out if you have eye's to see.
I don't care of insults or faults of another or things of that nature because it leads to an endless circle of debate, instead I want to show you that good resides in a world of doubt and evil just like other words of doubt reside on a page but its the one the middle you read, just as you look to the inside of a person to know how someone really is.
The body is your temple and it's where your mouth resides and a body in motion is a walking church for who needs a doctor if one is healthy and in the same way I am here to show you that the material world is a lie and we took the money changers route. A church was there for the gifts you give to the father
and a place to discuss and learn and not become greater than the follower but to be equal.
True path from the words of Buddha
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by WarriorOfLight96
The body is your temple and it's where your mouth resides and a body in motion is a walking church for who needs a doctor if one is healthy and in the same way I am here to show you that the material world is a lie and we took the money changers route. A church was there for the gifts you give to the father
I do not give myself to anyone. I share myself with those who show they are willing to share equally with me, those who show that I am worth as much to them as they are to me.
and a place to discuss and learn and not become greater than the follower but to be equal.
Not become greater than the follower, but still become equal? This is a contradiction of terms. The thing that has always confused me is the whole servant and master relationship. I don't want to serve anyone. I'm perfectly okay with sharing, but that's not enough, apparently. My soul is my own to share. I will never give my soul. I may share it, but only with those who are willing to share just as much with me.
I am a friend, not a follower. I am a companion, not a servant. I consider advice, but I do not take orders. I listen, I weigh, and I exercise my free will. And it will always be so.
No it's not because being equal to the one that is teaching is the nature of things but materialism came and messed with the flow of nature, as the same way God became flesh to show that even he was willing to wash the feet of his followers because that is the way the world should live.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by WarriorOfLight96
No it's not because being equal to the one that is teaching is the nature of things but materialism came and messed with the flow of nature, as the same way God became flesh to show that even he was willing to wash the feet of his followers because that is the way the world should live.
That's funny, because "God" did a lot of things that Jesus never did. Thinking about it, it seems that "God" caused destruction in a lot of places that Jesus just talked about stuff. Parables. He told riddles, much the way the Buddhists pass on their wisdom. "God" was all about swift and merciless action, while Jesus was about gentle conversation. "God" and Jesus were not the same kind of person. That much is obvious in the way Jesus practiced humility and obeisance at the same time that "God" practiced dominance and grandeur. Unless Jesus was somehow managing to both humble himself and exalt himself at the same time, there's no way he was united with "God" in any true fashion.
As such, what Jesus did, according to your stories, was a gesture of equality, far aside from the distant demeanor of "God".
Originally posted by Glass
reply to post by WarriorOfLight96
The website which you linked, Did Buddha prophesize the coming of Jesus? actually refutes the claim that Buddha said anything about Jesus.
The main problems with this are the passages which reference burnt offerings and sin, which are not Buddhist but Christian ideas. They refer to Nirvana as if it is a place like Heaven, though Nirvana is a state of mind. There are also no references stating where this passage can be found in the Tipitaka.
In short, this is a hoax. Buddha didn't prophesize the coming of Jesus. It is merely Christian propaganda.