Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Don’t be so sure about the surveillance video. Remember the guy the cops killed coming out of a Costco there were plenty of eye witnesses that the
police overstepped and basically murdered him but when it came time for it to go to court the surveillance system recordings were nowhere to be found.
Big business will always help out the Leos why would they go against their own protection. They are simply a form of paid protection no different than
how mafia works.
Well, if we CAN see the video, I would bet there is more there than what we see in this one. There is SO much off with this story.
1. The start of the incident is cut off. Supposedly, she's confronting someone about allegedly hitting her car, and they don't get that on video? I
don't buy it. The fact that we don't see all of the footage indicates there is something they don't want us to see. Even at the start of the video
we do see, she's clearly shoving at the cop, who is about pinned between the vehicles, with her and her guy (who calls her "baby mama", so no way to
know the relationship), and is in a threatening situation. The other cops comes up, sees her from behind, with NO WAY to know she's pregnant, sees
the other cop pinned, and pulls a non-lethal weapon to get control of the situation. Under those circumstances, based on what we do see, he's
2. Seems clear that the people making the video know her, and know she's pregnant. They shout it, after the taser goes off, when WE can't see it at
all. The fact that they seem to know the woman, and are in the car making a video, practically screams "set up" to me. Probably for the guy that
supposedly hit her car, but later to make her out to be a victim. Being pregnant isn't an excuse for bad behavior. If some guy hit her car, the
simple solution is to get the plate number and call the police. There isn't a need to get in his face, as someone stated she did. That is, in fact,
endangering her child, as she has no idea what that person might do. Right there, she didn't place the safety of the baby first. The video maker
states he's making it, making a point of it, with clear intent to post it and make the cops look bad. Leaving off the start certainly does that, from
most of the comments here. Then, they claim someone else, presumably a cop, is trying to "block" the video, all the while placing a finger over the
lens, when NO ONE ELSE is anywhere near them at the moment.
3. Later, we hear the video maker state he has "no ID". How convenient..... He also, supposedly, has no phone number. Gee, what was he using for
the video? My guess is, based on what most people carry, a cell phone camera! So, odds are very good he flat out lied to the police.
All in all, I have a hard time believing the story we are being offered. When I can see the cop stuck between two cars, see her shoving at him, and
the guy right there, and he's got to call for help, I can't see her as a victim. She was NOT, from anything I could see in the video, ever on her
stomach. She was sideways, then seated. From what I could see, it did look like she was fighting with the cop, too. She could have bent and placed
her hands on the car. She didn't. She could have avoided the actions that made her be arrested in the first place. Pregnancy is NOT a free pass to
I am all for cops not going too far, and have seen some videos of serious abuse of power, and even excessive force (like that horrific strip search
video). From this, I can't say this is such a case. Plus, what is all the upset from many about a taser? What is the cop supposed to do, to protect
another cop? Shoot? Smack people with a billy club? They have tasers because those are non-lethal, and don't cause serious harm in most cases. If
she'd done what she did in some places (Germany comes to mind) the cops could, quite legally, punch her. No, they used a non-lethal weapon, instead.
Pinned cop, clearly being threatened, even in this abbreviated video, and the other guy had reason. Finally, why is there a need to bring race into
this (not you, Grim)? How about people behave, and stop looking for excuses not to?
edit on 5-4-2013 by LadyGreenEyes because: