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Originally posted by Raxoxane
reply to post by mysteryskeptic
Btw,i always forget,of course no one online is really privy to this-i grew up in an extremely dysfunctional,very abusive family.I was adopted at 10 days old,through the direct intervention of a FM,a lifelong friend of my adoptive parents.My adoptive father(shadowpersonin question?) was'nt even in country when my adoptive mom signed papers,she told me later in life(around 8/9) that he was furious wth her for adopting me.We were close when i was a small kiddy,though he lived apart from us-we completely grew apart as time went on.I just felt-if shadowperson was him-it was sweet of him to come visit me.If not him-manners cost nothing,eh?
Originally posted by esteay812
reply to post by mysteryskeptic
Sorry for such a long description. I think it’s important to understand the basics of sleep cycles, before moving into more complex sleep state manipulation.
I mailed you the steps to take to experience SP and potential OBE on your own. I would've posted here, but it is too long and I don't want to hi-jack the thread.
Anyone else reading & interested in learning more, let me know and I'll mail you or I'll open a new thread about it.
One of the hardest parts for me to get past were the 'auditory hallucinations'. Many people describe them as a mid-range humming sound, related to the 'electrical buzzing' feeling they experience with SP.
What I hear is a little different. It's very loud and sounds like a very large piece of glass shattering. It's similar to one of those 'Rain Sticks'. A hollow stick with beads inside. When you turn it over, it sounds like heavy rain falling. Very suprising, especially when it's something you've never heard/experienced with sleep before.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
how is it these researchers can state that the things people see are all in their minds? They totally discount any possibility of anything of a more spiritual or paranormal nature.
Maybe demons infest human minds... which is why such reports are taken as psychological cases. It could be a mental thing, but still a real demon. Like you said, it could appear in the vision of one person, but an onlooker may not see or feel anything.
Maybe people who experience it are in a trance like state and their minds are access a parallel dimension where those demonic beings live.
The very idea that so many people would all see the same thing seems a bit unlikely to me, if these were mental manifestations.
Exactly. How is it that so many people report those black figures? See my post here
edit on 5-4-2013 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Logos23
But what as become a regular theme for me is waking in this state and seeing red writing on my wall.It's almost like I have lost the ability to read....I know the writing is there and it is word's but I can't read them. I strain really hard to try and focus and read it but as I feel myself coming out of the paralysed state the writing become's less and less visible until I can move and then the writing just disappears....It's more frustrating than scary!
Originally posted by calstorm
I dealt with this most of my life until the last 5 years or so. I was clueless as to what it was until I started doing research. When i joined ATS I learned that it was more common than I thought. I have since learned tips and tricks to keep it away, such as sleeping on my stomach or side. It is more likely to happen when sleeping on your back, or in cases of extreme stress.
Originally posted by kudegras
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Stories may be scary to read, but far more scary to experience. I lived through about 15 -20 years of this. It came and went whenever it wanted, I'd normally get a feeling around dusk that it was going to be one of those nights.
I am not really bible religious, but I believe in a creator and found that asking for help from God or saying the Lords prayer usually works in ridding them for awhile.
The problem I had was that I was always tired, and obviously lack of sleep made me more tired. Which meant I would get drowsy, fall asleep and be attacked, I think they actually drain you of energy in some way, they are parasitical and IMHO exist and are not some psychological disorder.