Originally posted by buddha
I agree with you.
if they would just fit in.
and not just make a community like bringing a part of their country.
if they want to live that way they should stay at home.
if they Dont like it in a Muslim country they should Stop being a Muslim.
The problem as I keep saying but most PC people refuse despite my expertise to accept what I say, is that there are 3 Muslim types,
1. Normal Muslims like my in laws, people who came to the UK in the 50's, worked until they retired, brought their own house and never claimed a
single benefit, they also integrated TOTALLY, my late father in law was great friends with the also late Tommy Cooper whom I met while he was chatting
with my wife.
They became part of the community but never stopped believing in their peaceful faith.
2. The Radicals who detest our way of life, many are ill educated or have grown up brainwashed to hate the Kuffar and live by Sharia.
3. The really dangerous ones, the moderates of whom I've met many, these are the trojan horses, most claim peace and harmony while getting involved
politically and in chain of command yet secretly are as radical as the others, we have one in the the House of Lords, Lord Ahmed, all peace and
niceness when here but was caught on Pakistan TV blaming the Jewish people for hounding him, he had a good old rant and it was pure hatred.
To answer your question, Muslim 2 and 3 have no wish to be a part of the community unless it can be used to spread their will to remove our culture,
the UK is a vessel for them to convert to Islam, they have no wish to help us or be part of our lives.
As for them stopping being Muslim, well for me and many Muslims these radicals are not actually proper Muslims, they follow man made laws, man made
ideals and deviate from the book, while the book can be incredibly violent and repressive there are parts which are scientific and show peace to
others and respect to other religions, so you see these radicals ignore these facts while normal Muslims ignore the bad stuff and live peaceful good
Our task is to separate the oil from the water and in cases of a true wish to not integrate after coming here and going down a path of hate crime
remove these people back to where they came from. We must stop the stupid pandering to the radicals and make them either follow the rules ALL others
have to or decide to leave and settle in countries who follow their ideals.
Allowing Sharia courts here in the UK is a massive mistake, to actively give one set of people a different set of laws just is insane, especially when
the laws they use are repressive to Women. We must treat Radicals with the same rules we treat other religions and make it plain to them that our
culture and laws are what stays, they can have their culture but it must not be forced or used to spread hatred or ill feeling.
Ladies and gents, Hindu's Sikhs, Christians and all others, we must all retake our streets and welcome the normal Muslim but show the radicals that
its our country and will remain a place of democratic free speech, rights for women, a place where people mix without conflict and make plain to those
that won't that they are not welcome.
edit on 4-4-2013 by Mclaneinc because: I think faster than I type and miss out letters or words