Originally posted by Bluesma
It well publicized that some examples would be made in the first year and they were, but - that was then.
You're being disingenuous. You said they were not enforced. I gave you evidence that they had been and you now say, okay they were enforced for a
bit, but now they are not. And again you provide no evidence.
As I'm the only one who has actually done that, and it contradicts your claim, why should anyone believe you?
my daughter lives next to one of those No Go zones on one of those links.
The only evidence that these are actual "no go" areas comes from a biased right-wing source! Everyone else says they are just impoverished zones
subject to special fiscal measures.
I'm sure they have problems of crime and poverty. But unless you can show me some sort of official acknowledgement that police don't enter the
areas, that they are literally run by gangs, then I think you're making it up.
why do you feel they should be able to break laws (like covering the identity in public) that the others in this country cannot?
You are unable to show that they are allowed to do this. And I contend that they are not.
Please don't pretend I'm saying things that I'm not. I fully support the French state's right to enforce its laws and as far as I can see they
are. You telling me that they are not isn't really persuasive.
These stats have been well published everywhere, though the latest dates of studies are from before the flood of immigrants from countries like Egypt
and Syria in turmoil. So we can be sure they are too low.
But just from Wikipedia alone-
Au total, immigrés (5,3 millions) et descendants direct d'immigrés (6,7 millions) sont, selon la définition de l'Insee, au nombre de 12
millions en 2008, soit 19 % de la population
D'autre part, 30 % de la population métropolitaine âgée de 18 à 50 ans est soit née hors de la métropole soit née d'au moins un parent né
hors de la metropole
These statistics don't back up what you said at all. Why is it that anti-immigrationists have to make stuff up all the time?
"30% of the total population under the age of 18 is arab immigrants"
But neither of your quotes back that up. So why did you say it?
Apparently they were not the ones I am talking about.
I have had to work next to one of these No Go zones.
Which don't exist.
Or, to be more charitable, which you somehow cannot prove exist.
When they had a marriage in the neighborhood, it was traditional that they shoot off guns- and there was always a few Kalichinikovs- those are illegal
in this country. It is only through illegal activities that one can get them.
It sounds like you live in Helmand.
Seriously, I don't believe you. Sorry. I also don't believe your house was bombed. I'm absolutely willing to be proved wrong, although that will
require some evidence.
Reading this again, I realize I didn't get around to pulling up links for "proof" (not that any would convince you) . I guess I don't feel like
trying. I welcome you to continue believing there is a huge conspiracy, to make the world think that France has struggles within concerning it's
I don't think that. And if you put up some evidence I would consider it. So far you have been unable to do anything except make assertions.