Originally posted by Jchristopher5
Not sure "how the evidence is against me"' or more correctly against my OPINION that astronauts have probably observed some things they have not
Copper freely told about the UFOs that he witnessed.
Mitchell said that he believes UFOs are real and visiting earth.
Aldrin told of a UFO sighting on Apollo 11.
Musgrave detailed his own sighting.
I take it back, in fact there is a lot of evidence supporting US astronauts seeing UFOs.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Oberg!
thanks for getting back, and getting specific.
Cooper described two UFO incidents, in Germany in 1951 and at Edwards AFB in 1957. Have you ever seen any investigation report on them, or is his
version to be accepted without verification? In any case -- nothing on any spaceflight. Even as 'UFO reports' -- when checked out, which you don't
seem interested in, they are much less impressive then when narrated at UFO conventions decades later.
Mitchell, based on stories other people have told him, believes aliens have visited Earth. But he has never seen any, on spaceflights or on earth.
Aldrin told of watching a pulsing light on Apollo-11, which he never believed was a UFO, and for which he has a thoroughly reasonable prosaic
explanation which you ought to look for. He is also annoyed at the TV producer who clipped and edited his own comments to make it sound like he was
describing a 'true UFO', which he thinks is silly.
Musgrave has NEVER 'detailed' his own sighting, others have fabricated it. Musgrave reports he has never seen indicators of alien intelligence on any
of his six space missions and knows of no other astronauts who have, either. He thinks intelligent life abounds out in the universe, but hasn't yet
had the chance to meet it.
So -- four astronauts YOU offer as evidence of space UFO encounters -- the reality is zero out of four.
You really ought to venture out of the intellectual ghetto you have self-imprisoned yourself in, and partake of the full range of investigations of
this wondrous phenomenon. It's worth the effort, and enthusiastic hard-headed no-nonsense analysts and investigators are really needed. Do consider
giving it a try.
ADD: Here's an example of evidence you shouldn't ignore:
Ex-Astronaut Story Musgrave: ETs Exist, They're Just Not Visiting Earth
"I'm going to tell them that, for me, and my interpretation of everything that's come my way, I cannot arrive at the idea that we have been visited --
either in the past or now," Musgrave told The Huffington Post.
"Some astronauts have been quoted as saying they think they're [aliens] out there -- I have seen their evidence, and for me, it's not evidence," he
said. "Other astronauts were not able to provide me with any empirical evidence, either."
and here's Aldrin explaining what he really thinks about the absurd claim that HE thinks he saw a UFO on his space mission:
UFOs and Aliens in Space
Skeptical Inquirer David Morrison Volume 33.1, January / February 2009
edit on 2-4-2013 by JimOberg because: add musgrave and aldrin links