UK: Top ten immigrant populations & Net migration falls by a third

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse

 

Are you slow?

If you're implying that minorities don't work hard, etc, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

im not implying im stating as fact. The british are the hardest workers in europe.

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse

 

Are you slow?

If you're implying that minorities don't work hard, etc, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

im not implying im stating as fact. The british are the hardest workers in europe.

British workers work the hardest. But that includes immigrants. And actually it's immigration that has allowed us to keep our productivity so high relative to wages.

Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Originally posted by davesmart
reply to post by JuniorDisco

 

We are talking about Britain here right?

Ive never discriminated against anyone with a different color so you can give that one a rest please.
fyi i have british born asian friends that agree with me that this new surge of migrants especially the poles
are not the poles that we allowed to come to this country as refugees during ww2.
This new batch of poles are mainly scrounging gits, many a time im getting begged from poles.
London is even worse theres a war between the romas and the gypsys for pickpocketing prostitution and drugs
rights to distribute their wares. All happening in the london underground as we speak.

Sorry that you think this thread is full of Racists, but I guarantee we are not.
As andy said "charity begins at home" and thats what i was brought up to believe.

Again Juniordisco, apologies if we sound like barbarics but we/I dont want appear that way.
cheers
Dave

I don't think you're barbaric at all, but I do disagree with the picture you paint. I live in London, in an area of high immigration. There are problems with some immigrants committing crime etc, but the overwhelming majority of crime is carried out by British people and the overwhelming majority of immigrants are decent and hardworking.

In my company we have Bulgarians, Poles, a Romanian, a German and a person from the US. We all get on and they all work hard. I also employ other Eastern Europeans and Asians in other capacities and they are without exception diligent and quite the opposite of scroungers or criminals. In many cases (particularly the Romanians) the straight ones are absolutely appalled by the minority's dole bludging and criminal activity.

The point is that blaming the immigrants for all these problems is, I think, misguided.

Its such a shame really, I do blame our guv
And cant really blame the immis for taking advantage
But that is what it is nowadays, immigrants will take advantage of free welfare
Our country is best at advertising free nhs

Is it possible that you, do not live an an area where just going to the local shop makes you feel out of place

It is happening more often and the guv is great at this old school propaganda
I never till now believed this phrase "Devide and Conquer"

Originally posted by davesmart

Its such a shame really, I do blame our guv
And cant really blame the immis for taking advantage
But that is what it is nowadays, immigrants will take advantage of free welfare
Our country is best at advertising free nhs

Evidence suggests that immigrants don't generally come here for welfare though, or target the UK because they conceive it a 'soft touch'.

Is it possible that you, do not live an an area where just going to the local shop makes you feel out of place

Local booze shop - Turkish bloke owns it, thai wife.
Local newsagent - Indian
Local pub - Irish by lineage, landlord Spanish, staff various
Local coffee shop - Japanese
Local caffs - Turkish, Italian
Local chicken shop - Pakistani
Local kebab shop - not sure but not white!
Local restaurants - Indian (several), Japanese, Thai, Mexican, Greek, Lebanese

Personally I don't feel out of place amid all this. But I appreciate it's not for everyone.

Yet a different message from Turkish EU Minister.

Islam is ‘Europe’s reality’, says Turkey’s EU minister
Responding to recent controversial comments by French far right politician Marine Le Pen, Turkey's EU Minister Egemen Bağış said Monday that "Islam is a reality for the European Union" and Europe against "burying their heads in the sand". By Hürriyet Daily News (text) Islam is a reality for the European Union and Europeans won’t get anywhere by burying their heads in the sand, EU Minister Egemen Bağış said yesterday.

“It is Islamophobia rather than Islam that is visible in France and across Europe,” Bağış said, referring to French far-right leader Marine Le Pen’s recent statement that Islam was “more visible” than before in France. “We know Ms. Le Pen’s statements on Turkey and our values but we don’t care too much."

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This is ofcourse after France re-kindled with the head scarf/veil issue.

The debate about Islamic headscarves which gripped France in 2004 has been reignited by a controversial court ruling.

President Francois Hollande, a Socialist, has backed cross-party moves for further curbs on headscarves.

Muslims have reacted with dismay to demands for a new law, which followed a ruling by France's highest court of appeal last month.

France has the largest number of Muslims in western Europe - estimated at between five and six million.

The Court of Cassation ruled that an employee of a privately-run nursery who was sacked for wearing an Islamic headscarf had been unlawfully dismissed.

The Socialist government was quick to warn of a threat to the "principle of secularism", which "must not stop at the nursery gate".

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Originally posted by davesmart
I also believe that rome fell due to immigration (or centralisation)

Rome's primary reason for it's collapse was the aggregation of the Empire's wealth into the hands of a very few, leading to economic stagnation and social decline. This then made them weaker when the migrating Germanic tribes came wandering in.... It's obviously more complex than that, but that's the crux of it..

Sounds familiar though.....

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Those stats are wrong.

You should visit Newham sometime.

And I suspect those figures are wrong for the Birmingham area especially when you take into account the other Ethnicities.