UK: Top ten immigrant populations & Net migration falls by a third

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posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by tdk84

Originally posted by davesmart

Originally posted by stumason
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I totally agree matey - I have nothing against immigration, this country was built by it, but space is limited and we're getting full. This is simply a realistic assessment of the situation, not based on any racism or what have you, but we do need to have controls in place and for the EU migrants too.


Exactly m8 you could have not said it better.

But guv is scared to say "bugger of home now your not needed".

But also thats unfair for the the genuine immigrants from years ago that have built their life here.

This guv has to stop immigration full stop.
London has more non brits than brit born, and the midlands is and will head the same way.

I honestly have to give guv a round of applause..
They aint half fecked up everything that our grandparents laid down their lifes for.


Are they not combating this though? there saying immigration has dropped by a third? As previously stated theres nothing wrong with immigration. Personally if you have a skilled labour force who wants to contribute, then so let them.

I guess that doesn't apply to just skilled labour. We get a lot of Gurkha's where I am due to the army base near us. Really friendly guys not that you would want to mess with them haha. But if they want to fight for us by all means stay and reap the rewards.

The Gov just needs to tighten the rules like how Australia and co do. We should be exploiting the benefits of immigration not the other way around.
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Hi TDK all i can add is this.

In the las 12 yrs I have never been treated with a british born doctor (regardless of colour)
So i dont bother with them now they make to many mistakes.

As for Australia...
We are aired a program called "Border Control" which shows you people getting sniffed,rubbed,smelt and
cavity searching.
This is what a vietnamize goes through whilst trying to live...i mean visit oz.

Even Brits have been subjected to such intrusive searches.
Its Ironic really.
200 years ago an average offender was sent to oz for as little as a theft
nowadays you cant get into the country if you have so much as say..bad acne.
(sorry if i come across rude that is not intended)




posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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haha, true, maybe a bit too tight in OZ but it works.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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However there has already been some damage done to UK IMO.

British women who turn to Islam.
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Will Britain convert to Islam?
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The Last White Kids.
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Isle of White.
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What will happen when Islam takes over Britain.

British muslims want to take over the UK.

England: No-Go areas for Kuffar (Non-Muslims).

Why UK providing financial aid to Pakistan?
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UK MSM with a different voice though.
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Disaster for the British Monarchy?
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Britain's self-islamization.
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The Islamization of British Police.
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Islamization of London.
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Smooching up to Islamic Population.
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posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 01:18 PM
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Yes there are issues that need addressing but it's nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.

Why are British women turning to Islam?
Easy - mixed marriages.
Many young people of Asian descent are more liberal in their outlook and meet British girls whilst out socialising etc, nature takes it's course and some marry.
As marriage with non-Muslims is pretty much frowned upon by the older generations the women convert to Islam - that is not to say they are practising Muslims.

I was raised a Catholic, I know many people who converted to Catholicism to enable them to be married in a Catholic church - this practice is dying out, much as I expect will women converting to Islam for the same reasons.

The other three reports are all nearly ten years old.
I accept that some of the points raised as still as relevant today as they were then but still.....?

Yes, there are areas which are predominantly Muslim.
And that's not an issue as such - look at the USA where it's prefectly acceptable to have predominantly Jewish, Italian, Irish, Polack areas.

The problem is when these areas become no-go areas and breed radicalism.
I acknowledge and accept that there is a problem with creeping Islamification - many would disagree with me.

And it's imperative that the authorities address these issues urgently.

But please don't be fooled into thinking that those reports etc are representative of the UK as a whole - far from it.
Over 100,000 people live in the town where I live - less than 1% are thought to be Muslim - and my town is by no means unique or exceptional in any way shape or form.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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Agree. However thats how issues start in a small country like UK.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Hya

I agree on what you say....but did not Hitler start of that way?
I also believe that rome fell due to immigration (or centralisation)

Every whine and moan about the immigrants is a moan for a reason.
Before long that moan and whine will turn into pain and hatrid. I hope it doesn't ,
because us brits are loyal and we want to help everyone but as usual our kindness gets our hands bitten.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 06:36 PM
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I'm not advocating a continuance of the open door immigration policy but rather a merit based system that ensures immigrants are willing or able to contribute to our society.

A certain level of immigration is a necessity in any growing and developing society.

There are many reasons for Rome's decline, not too sure immigration was one of them but I've got to say I'm not really a great student of Roman history.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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The figures are lies full stop,dont trust the figures. All the major cities are flooded with weird foreigners. We have sacrificed our future and people in gated communities will be safe. The rest of us must bring in american gun laws to be able to protect ourselves.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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Hi m8

I know your not advocating anything, sorry if i sounded rude

Immigration is a touchy subject at the moment along with the restructure of the benefits
and immigrants causing a strain on the nhs (coventry council's words)
Im suprised the falklands have gone quiet for the moment, that will probably be next lol.
cheers
dave



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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Is there a point to some of these posts, other than people vehemently suppressing their racist thoughts/feelings?

I don't care where someone comes from as long as they

1. Earn their keep like everyone else
2. Respect the laws and rules of the nation they move to.

No one has the right to deny others the ability to immigrate, not governments and certainly not the National Front.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by davesmart
 


Is there a point to some of these posts, other than people vehemently suppressing their racist thoughts/feelings?

I don't care where someone comes from as long as they

1. Earn their keep like everyone else
2. Respect the laws and rules of the nation they move to.

No one has the right to deny others the ability to immigrate, not governments and certainly not the National Front.
are you saying ethnic minorities apply to 1 and 2



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by davesmart
 


Is there a point to some of these posts, other than people vehemently suppressing their racist thoughts/feelings?

I don't care where someone comes from as long as they

1. Earn their keep like everyone else
2. Respect the laws and rules of the nation they move to.

No one has the right to deny others the ability to immigrate, not governments and certainly not the National Front.
are you saying ethnic minorities apply to 1 and 2


The majority do. Your talking about minorities that don't. Every immigrate I've ever known has been a hard working contributor respecting laws above and beyond. I'd go as far as saying they tend to be better citizens then British born.

All this talk about Muslims taking over the country... not even 3% of the country is Muslim.

As Freeborn mentioned about marriage, my family is also Catholic, every member who's married in has 'converted '. I myself will be getting married next year and my partner will be doing so in a catholic church. Its very common especially when more and more people are basically atheist and couldn't care less.

People will generally do anything to please there better half's. I'd hardly call it a dieing trend either...
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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 04:27 AM
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Are you slow?

If you're implying that minorities don't work hard, etc, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by davesmart
 


Is there a point to some of these posts, other than people vehemently suppressing their racist thoughts/feelings?

I don't care where someone comes from as long as they

1. Earn their keep like everyone else
2. Respect the laws and rules of the nation they move to.

No one has the right to deny others the ability to immigrate, not governments and certainly not the National Front.


I dont recall the NF being mentioned, I may be wrong.
You have no idea how the british think or feel.
I knew do-gooders from years ago that would defend these immigrant europeans till the sun went down,
then lo behold these same people are saying "Dave you were right I should have known"

These are peeps that 15 yrs ago were in a good job till they were driven out due to cheaper labour
and reality came crashing down hard on these folks.
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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:27 AM
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When all else fails, blame the immigrants.

That's all it is. Period.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by davesmart

I knew do-gooders from years ago that would defend these immigrant europeans till the sun went down,
then lo behold these same people are saying "Dave you were right I should have known"


Let's rewind a bit and see who has been proved "right".

In the fifties and sixties it was the Irish and Caribbeans. In the thirties and before it was the jews. Before that huguenots, Italians etc. You would have said just the same about all of them.

Do you think we should send back all black people? Or Irish people? Were you "right" about them?



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:52 AM
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We are talking about Britain here right?

Ive never discriminated against anyone with a different color so you can give that one a rest please.
fyi i have british born asian friends that agree with me that this new surge of migrants especially the poles
are not the poles that we allowed to come to this country as refugees during ww2.
This new batch of poles are mainly scrounging gits, many a time im getting begged from poles.
London is even worse theres a war between the romas and the gypsys for pickpocketing prostitution and drugs
rights to distribute their wares. All happening in the london underground as we speak.

Sorry that you think this thread is full of Racists, but I guarantee we are not.
As andy said "charity begins at home" and thats what i was brought up to believe.

Again Juniordisco, apologies if we sound like barbarics but we/I dont want appear that way.
cheers
Dave



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by davesmart
reply to post by JuniorDisco
 


We are talking about Britain here right?

Ive never discriminated against anyone with a different color so you can give that one a rest please.
fyi i have british born asian friends that agree with me that this new surge of migrants especially the poles
are not the poles that we allowed to come to this country as refugees during ww2.
This new batch of poles are mainly scrounging gits, many a time im getting begged from poles.
London is even worse theres a war between the romas and the gypsys for pickpocketing prostitution and drugs
rights to distribute their wares. All happening in the london underground as we speak.



Do you think? All the poles I know seem really sound, all work etc made pals with a several at the gym. We get a lot in our town, more then anything else.

I think people stereotype immigrants too quickly, I've done the same. Most immigrants come here to work and contribute, more so then some British youths.
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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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I live in Peterborough. them stats did not shock me


 
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posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by davesmart
reply to post by JuniorDisco
 



We are talking about Britain here right?

Ive never discriminated against anyone with a different color so you can give that one a rest please.
fyi i have british born asian friends that agree with me that this new surge of migrants especially the poles
are not the poles that we allowed to come to this country as refugees during ww2.
This new batch of poles are mainly scrounging gits, many a time im getting begged from poles.
London is even worse theres a war between the romas and the gypsys for pickpocketing prostitution and drugs
rights to distribute their wares. All happening in the london underground as we speak.

Sorry that you think this thread is full of Racists, but I guarantee we are not.
As andy said "charity begins at home" and thats what i was brought up to believe.

Again Juniordisco, apologies if we sound like barbarics but we/I dont want appear that way.
cheers
Dave


I don't think you're barbaric at all, but I do disagree with the picture you paint. I live in London, in an area of high immigration. There are problems with some immigrants committing crime etc, but the overwhelming majority of crime is carried out by British people and the overwhelming majority of immigrants are decent and hardworking.

In my company we have Bulgarians, Poles, a Romanian, a German and a person from the US. We all get on and they all work hard. I also employ other Eastern Europeans and Asians in other capacities and they are without exception diligent and quite the opposite of scroungers or criminals. In many cases (particularly the Romanians) the straight ones are absolutely appalled by the minority's dole bludging and criminal activity.

The point is that blaming the immigrants for all these problems is, I think, misguided.



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