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Originally posted by Jchristopher5
Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by draknoir2
Of course.
Stanton Friedman is very careful to talk about UFO's most of the time rather than saying visiting aliens, He says UFO but infers visiting aliens. That way he always has a backdoor if proved wrong on anything. He can just simply say i never mentioned aliens.
There will always be UFO's..anything to far away to identify is a UFO. So questions like "are UFO's real" is a total waste of time. The answer is "yes there will always be things in the sky that some people cant immediately identify".
People like UFO Stanton Friedman play on this grey area for a living.
edit on 2-4-2013 by PhoenixOD because: (no reason given)
I don't agree completely. I do understand that a plane making an approach COULD be a UFO to an untrained observer.
However, when hundreds witness a delta shaped object, a thousand meters wide, silently hovering, moving slowly and then accelerating away in an instant, that is a real UFO. Meaning, you would be challenged to find a known earthly explanation for that sighting. Take the Phoenix Lights case.
Originally posted by Jchristopher5
reply to post by Jaellma
It would be fun to have a sort of debate, Oberg/Dru vs. Friedman, ala Stanton and Klass of more then a decade ago.
I don't agree with a lot from Oberg or Dru. I have had disagreements with both of them on this forum. But I respect the viewpoint that people like myself cannot inconclusively prove that a non-human interaction and interference is taking place around us.
Some UFOs are part of that phenomenon, in my opinion. The mountain of evidence points to it. We have key testimony about the cover up. But, we cannot yet prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to suit most people.
I have been 100 percent convinced in this reality for a while. Like others, I struggle to convince those who don't want to believe.
Originally posted by InhaleExhale
Originally posted by Jchristopher5
reply to post by Jaellma
It would be fun to have a sort of debate, Oberg/Dru vs. Friedman, ala Stanton and Klass of more then a decade ago.
I don't agree with a lot from Oberg or Dru. I have had disagreements with both of them on this forum. But I respect the viewpoint that people like myself cannot inconclusively prove that a non-human interaction and interference is taking place around us.
Some UFOs are part of that phenomenon, in my opinion. The mountain of evidence points to it. We have key testimony about the cover up. But, we cannot yet prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to suit most people.
I have been 100 percent convinced in this reality for a while. Like others, I struggle to convince those who don't want to believe.
To be 100percent convinced as you say you are requires no convincing of others, what for if you are convinced, your truth should be clear, convincing others to see as you do shows or implies you doubt your own perceptions.
Religions are created in such manneredit on 3-4-2013 by InhaleExhale because: (no reason given)edit on 3-4-2013 by InhaleExhale because: (no reason given)
I don't understand your post. I firmly believe in UFOs and alien visitation (non-human intelligence). I am convinced. I share my feelings but I don't care what you believe. Use our own mind. Regarding religion, that is ridiculous. I am on a journey to discovery but no worship or religion involved.