Department of Homeland Security Can Seize Gold, Silver, Guns in Safety Deposit Boxes

Can anybody verify this? One more slip down the slippery slope to ruin if true...

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Department of Homeland Security Can Seize Gold, Silver, Guns in Safety Deposit Boxes
Investment Watch
March 31, 2013
www.infowars.com...

According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that “under the Patriot Act” the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make “periodic and unannounced” visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of “selected safe deposit boxes.”
Further, the DHS “shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence” any of the following items “bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature.”
DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases “improper” “classified DHS Security information” to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and “any other party, to include members of the media” and further “that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act.” Safety deposit box holders and depositors are not given advanced notice when failed banks shut their doors.

Scary If I had one in the USA after reading this I would do what Ron Swanson does and bury it all in the woods.

I don't have gold, silver, guns or a safety deposit box. I do have a nice debt. I'm the "New Average American".

So...., unless they target the rich people.....

I heard about that years ago. I think all they have to do, is declare a state of war. Then they go looting.


This might have been what I had heard about.
www.silvermonthly.com...

Shortly after taking office sixteen years later, Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 6102 into law, prohibiting the “hoarding” of gold. Under this executive order, Americans were prohibited from owning more than $100 worth of gold coins, and all “hoarders” (i.e. people who owned more than $100 worth of gold) were forced, by law, to sell their “excess” gold to the government at the prevailing price of $20.67 per ounce.

I knew there was a time when the government took people's gold, different than what I thought though.

I'm still pretty sure I've heard something about taking from citizens in a state if war. I just can't find it.

I'm extremely glad I cleared and closed my safe deposit box over a year ago. I didn't have any contraband which decent person would see that way but sensitive documents and things like that which "in the opinion of any agent" may not be things they figure a citizen needs to have or know about for events they describe.

Freedom is becoming a thing of the past to remember ... Thanks a lot Janet.

If only the nation could have guessed in 2001, what this would become when DHS didn't exist yet. Some DID raise big objections ...but heck, war was in the air, people wanted blood and anything to stay safe was the order of the day. We did just what the Founders warned us not to. We traded liberty for security. Now all the security in the world won't buy that liberty back. ....and we're still giving more away all the time.

Originally posted by Trueman
I don't have gold, silver, guns or a safety deposit box. I do have a nice debt. I'm the "New Average American".

So...., unless they target the rich people.....

There's an idea. Maybe if I put all my debt in a safety deposit box they will confiscate that. Or maybe I could wrap up some gifts from my dogs and put them in a safety deposit box under the name O. B. Laden. Or, record a video of random people and label it "My killer is on this DVD." Maybe fill a test tube water and food coloring and put biohazard and radioactive labels on it. Lots of fun possibilities.

Seriously though, why would anybody put anything of value in a safety deposit box? Even without the Patriot Act, the governent could just come in and take it.

The government will just come and take whatever they effin well want.
Maybe you can complain to the sherriffs office, but they are nullifying them too......

reply to post by stirling




"We will take what we want and decide later whether or not to blow you out of the water..."
- DHS spokesperson

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Scary If I had one in the USA after reading this I would do what Ron Swanson does and bury it all in the woods.

Yeah totally right! (When is Ron ever wrong )

This is pretty much exactly what a breach of privacy is. Police state does whatever it likes regardless of rights or privacy, this couldnt get more of a clear cut and obvious case for it.

Why do they want to look inside the boxes? Because its the only information they dont already have access too! All your information, bank details, assets, deeds, weapons etc is all sorted on databases but those boxes by their very nature are little sealed black boxes of presumably valuable information.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


i realise this is ATS - but is a primary source too much to ask for ?

Research Update

Apparently this information goes all the way back to 2006 from a blog at leapingrealeyes.blogspot.com...

TUESDAY, JANUARY 31, 2006

WARNING BANK SAFE DEPOSIT BOX

January 2006:


IMPORTANT AND URGENT WARNING FOR ANYONE WITH A BANK SAFE DEPOSIT BOX:

U.S DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS TOLD BANKS - IN WRITING - IT MAY INSPECT SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES WITHOUT WARRANT AND SIEZE ANY GOLD, SILVER GUNS OR OTHER VALUABLES IT FINDS INSIDE THOSE BOXES!

By: Hal Turner


According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that "under the Patriot Act" (whatever that crap means) the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make "periodic and unannounced" visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of "selected safe deposit boxes."

Further, these boxes, taken from a DHS list of people who are considered "hostile to the present government, citizens who have visited outside the United States before or after 9/11 to countries now considered to be hostile to this country" " :Russia, Peoples Republic of China, Mexico, Guatemala, Spain, Italy, Egypt, France, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Turkey or the Sudan" or any citizen who has a bank account in any of those listed countries are considered to be of legitimate interest in the "ongoing investigations into foreign and domestic terrorism."

Further, the DHA "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items"bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature."

DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases "improper" "classified DHS Security information" to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and "any other party, to include members of the media" and further "that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act."

Currently, the two major targets of these completely illegal and warrantless searches and seizures, are the California-based Bank of America and the Compass Bank. The former is one of the largest banks in the United States and Compass Bank ( Compass Bancshares, Inc). is a $30.1 billion Southwestern financial holding company which operates 385 full-service banking centers including 139 in Texas, 89 in Alabama, 73 in Arizona, 42 in Florida, 32 in Colorado and 10 in New Mexico.

Of extraordinary interest to the DHS are Bank of America records relating to their Bank Of America 'SafeSend Money to Mexico' program.

It should be noted that the DHS states that "in the event that the owners of these confiscated objects do not file an administrative complaint within three (3) months subsequent to said confiscation, the aforesaid items shall pass to the permanent custody of the DHS"

Isn't that wonderful? You and your wife are visiting relatives in France, Uncle Einar's $100,000 collection of gold coins is lifted out of your box and you don't get back to the United States for two months and don't check your looted box for another four months. My, some nice DHS person, or maybe two, has a nice new BMW to show off to his neighbors. Tough luck, Uncle Einar!

Oh, and you might like to know that the spate of "robberies" of bank credit card and personal data that took place in and around February of 2005, were not robberies at all.

The DHS, using its muscle, simply went off with trucks full of data to mine at their leisure. The banks involved said nothing, and will say nothing.

If they do, their people will be at a nice Federal country club, making shoes for the Army while the DHS bosses, to include the FEMA thieves, will be buying property on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills or Palm Desert. Or some nice marina like Marine del Ray to keep their nice new 150' yacht.

To date, in California alone (the only report I have seen) over 1,500 banks have been "visited" and boxes rifled between January, 2005 and January, 2006.


Source: www.Rense.com

The source cited was Rense.com, so...
rense.com...


Here's a screenshot of some of the the 2006 text as it appears at Rense.com

rense.com...

Hmm.