Originally posted by litterbaux
I don't understand why you folks are getting so upset over this. They are bringing legal charges against the agencies that conducted the illegal searches.
This case will get swept under the rug and these folks will probably get around 50 to 80k in damages. Not bad.
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
Listen, this story smells fishy. Why is anyone growing tomatoes in the off-season anyways? Most people, even in the suburbs, grow tomatoes in the summer time outdoors.
These hydroponics retail stores are bad news. They cater to growers of illegal weed and it's evident in their stores that this is their clientele. I respect law enforcement, and would give them the benefit of the doubt in this case. It is highly unusual for people to grow tomatoes in their basement. Most of the times the people purchasing hydroponic equipment are purchasing this equipment to grow illegal weed.
Originally posted by Knives4eyes
reply to post by jude11
If their electricity usage didn't spike up then they weren't using very strong lights, so the only way for these 2 people to get 'busted' would be their internet usage and purchases. (and plant signature cameras)
If you grow the other stuff you need O3 generators to combat smell, a ventilation system, and massive massive lumens. Now I have met some people who claim that you have to wire your "room" illegally to save on power but I try to stay on the unhandcuffed side of the law.
I'm glad it was them that got caught growing unmolested vegetables in the sanctity of their own homes rather than me. Damn criminals.
edit: Quote from wrabbit - What they look for are two things from the air. One, plants give of a unique signature as he explained this to my curious ears.
Ah I totally forgot about those special cameras!!!! I found out about those last year I believe but was highly skeptical.....*queue x-files theme*edit on 31-3-2013 by Knives4eyes because: (no reason given)edit on 31-3-2013 by Knives4eyes because: (no reason given)
Ummm...I checked out your aquaponics system and just wanted to add that you dont even need the pea gravel for plant support. I know that your using it for filtration/solid breakdown in the rest of the system. You can use netting above the tanks for plant support and just keep the roots in the "water". I learned this method at Disney in their "behind the seeds" tour. I have a vanilla orchid that is doing swimmingly, with it's roots in a large pitcher with a styrofoam cap that the stem feeds through. I'm planning on setting up an aquaponics system this year, one that is sized so that I can harvest both fresh veggies and fresh fish, year round.
Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld
reply to post by jude11
wow. and for me that is so into AQUAPONICS (instead of plant food, it's a self sustained system using fish feces as plant food) gets me worried. i am in the process of buying my equipment as time goes cause i can't afford it all at once....
check my thread out.
become less dependent on the system for less than $100!!!
Originally posted by openyourmind1262
You got to be a fool to purchase indoor growing equipment from these garden stores. Go to Lowes Or Home Depot and buy the componets and build it yourself. It's not rocket science.There's ways to slow down your electrical meter. I know I was a service electrician for 29 years. I've seen some real tricky ways to thwart the power company. Some legal, some not. Got a whole list for those who may want to know this knowledge.
Hell I feel good today. I'll let you in on a way, most electrical meters have a little round disc in the center that turns, the faster it turns the more power your consuming, and the slower it turns the less you are using. You want to slow down that disc. But how the meter is a sealed unit. If you look close at the little wheel, it has little lines or notches in the edge, these turn thru another area and this is what meters your power.
That little disc is really thin and perfectly flat, it's the perfectly flat part you want to change, as the disc is warped it will scrape as it goes thru the other area, which slows it down, alot. But how to do this in a sealed meter, they have tamper evident seals.
All you need is a real sunny day, a really powerfull magnifying glass. Cut the power, concentrate the suns rays on that little disc, in time the heat will cause it to warp and go from flat to wavy. Which in turn will cause it to scrape and turn slower. which records less electrical usage, but your using the same amount. It's a sealed meter and they cant in no way know how the meter became defective. They will simply replace your meter if it's found. Let the wheel move a bit so there's no scorch marks on it.
Originally posted by brandiwine14
I saw this briefly on the internet the other day, find it very amusing.
What a way to waste a bunch of time and resources. To top it off the judge that gave the okay along with the department that asked for the warrant will most likely be sued now. Imagine doing everything right and just trying to grow a garden for you and your family and in come the swat scaring you, your kids and basically taking your sense of home and security away from you. At least no deaths came from their mistake...this time.
Originally posted by Kr0nZ
Two former CIA employees whose Kansashome was fruitlessly searched for marijuana during a two-state drug sweep claim they were illegally targeted, possibly because they had bought indoor growing supplies to raise vegetables. Adlynn and Robert Harte sued this week to get more information about why sheriff's deputies searched their home in the upscale Kansas City suburb of Leawood last April 20 as part of Operation Constant Gardener.
Did anyone else find it funny that they choose April 20 to raid the place?
I guess they figured if they were real pot users they wouldn't be home on 420
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by jude11
One would hope the members of the Swat team and the investigating officers would feel like jerks for busting in on innocent people, but the sad truth is that more likely than not they don't.
So now people are getting raided just on suspicion that they MIGHT be doing something illegal with equipment that is used for legitimate purposes. Minority Report style pre-crime law enforcement- here we come!
SWAT would mean that they were aware of a potential for guns I believe. And why not? Ex-CIA etc.
Maybe looking for a cache of weapons because of them growing food being seen as prepping?
Just a little strange.
Neither did Bob and Addie Harte, a Kansas couple who were raided by SWAT without a warrant last April because the authorities took notice of their purchase of indoor gardening items.
With little or no other evidence of any illegal activity law enforcement officers make the assumption
that buying hydroponic growing equipment is now being used as probable cause for the government to raid your house?
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