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posted on Apr, 8 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”

(2 Corinthians 13:14)

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posted on Apr, 8 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by cody599
 


No you don't.


Yes I do.



posted on Apr, 8 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by slugger9787
reply to post by truejew
 


The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.”

(2 Corinthians 13:14)

www.albanyepiscopaldiocese.org...

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Which does not prove a trinity.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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No you don't.


Yes I do.


If that's the case can we count on you ceasing from the trolling/flaming and from now on accurately articulate our belief?


These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 01:45 AM
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Who was Jesus speaking to when He asked His Father to forgive the men who nailed Him to the cross?



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by cody599
 


No you don't.


Yes I do.


If that's the case can we count on you ceasing from the trolling/flaming and from now on accurately articulate our belief?


These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.



I do not troll/flame.

The trinity is three gods. Being brainwashed to believe that 3 = 1 does not make it true.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Who was Jesus speaking to when He asked His Father to forgive the men who nailed Him to the cross?



Jesus was a man, the Son of God, praying to His Father.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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There was a t-shirt being advertised which had the caption imprinted upon it
"I can explain it to you, I can not understand it for you."



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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There was a t-shirt being advertised which had the caption imprinted upon it
"I can explain it to you, I can not understand it for you."



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by slugger9787
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There was a t-shirt being advertised which had the caption imprinted upon it
"I can explain it to you, I can not understand it for you."


Matthew 16:16-17 (KJV)
16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar–jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Trinitarians do not have the revelation that Jesus is the Son of the living God. They teach the Son of God had no beginning, therefore He is not really the Son of God to them.

I can not give the revelation to them, but I will not stand by and allow them to deceive those who have.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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OK guys this squabble has gone on long enough

Truejew You couldn't even reply to what I posted in phonetic hebrew any real true jew would have understood that.
I've checked your profile and not exactly active considering the time you've been a member so I'll retract anything I said about trolling and apologize.


I'll give you guys in fairness 24 hours to sort you're differences/ agree to disagree/ kiss and make up.

After that if this bickering is still going on I'm going to ask a mod to close this thread, as much as I,ve enjoyed reading the mental jousting

NOTurTypical Despite you valiant effort you are not going to get a sensible answer or understanding, just frustration.

To quote slugger


There was a t-shirt being advertised which had the caption imprinted upon it "I can explain it to you, I can not understand it for you."



You're both beautiful
Cody



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by cody599

Truejew You couldn't even reply to what I posted in phonetic hebrew any real true jew would have understood that.


Speaking today's version of Hebrew may be a requirement to be a Talmudic Jew, but not to be truly Jewish.

Your ex-wife is not a real Jew if she rejects the King of the Jews and follows the law.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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It was standard hebrew as spoken in Israel on a daily basis and as I speak to my kids

We lived on a Jewish pig farm Kibbutz Lahav

Hardly Talmudic

To make the assumption she rejects the king of Jews is to say in the least insulting, my son is called Elae after King David's most trusted general.

Methinks you don't have a clue what you are talking about


Cody
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posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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A TRUE jew would be able to answer this

Ba daht Ha hazereem ba aretz ken or lo. b'vakashah tagid ba ivrit foneti

If you can't read hebrew you can't read the torah
If you were a true jew you'd know that you can't read the torah in a linear fashion it must be read in depth with understanding of every connotation of every word.
You might want to go your rabbi and discuss that
Cody
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edit on 9/4/13 by cody599 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by cody599
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To make the assumption she rejects the king of Jews is to say in the least insulting, my son is called Elae after King David's most trusted general.

Methinks you don't have a clue what you are talking about


Does she reject the King of the Jews, Jesus Christ?



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by cody599
A TRUE jew would be able to answer this

Ba daht Ha hazereem ba aretz ken or lo. b'vakashah tagid ba ivrit foneti

If you can't read hebrew you can't read the torah
If you were a true jew you'd know that you can't read the torah in a linear fashion it must be read in depth with understanding of every connotation of every word.
You might want to go your rabbi and discuss that
Cody
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edit on 9/4/13 by cody599 because: (no reason given)


Speaking Hebrew does not save a person.

Why would I have a rabbi when Jesus spoke against rabbi's



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by cody599
A TRUE jew would be able to answer this

Ba daht Ha hazereem ba aretz ken or lo. b'vakashah tagid ba ivrit foneti

If you can't read hebrew you can't read the torah
If you were a true jew you'd know that you can't read the torah in a linear fashion it must be read in depth with understanding of every connotation of every word.
You might want to go your rabbi and discuss that
Cody
edit on 9/4/13 by cody599 because: (no reason given)
edit on 9/4/13 by cody599 because: (no reason given)


Speaking Hebrew does not save a person.

Why would I have a rabbi when Jesus spoke against rabbi's




As I said if you can't read the torah how can you understand judaism
and if you accept that Jesus spoke against rabbis and you use that as a post you have truly defeated yourself

batz laha

Cody



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by cody599

As I said if you can't read the torah how can you understand judaism


The Bible has been translated into other languages.


Originally posted by cody599

and if you accept that Jesus spoke against rabbis and you use that as a post you have truly defeated yourself




I have not used a rabbi as a post.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Who was Jesus speaking to when He asked His Father to forgive the men who nailed Him to the cross?



Jesus was a man, the Son of God, praying to His Father.


He wasn't the eternal Son of God who became Man? Jesus isn't God?



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by slugger9787
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There was a t-shirt being advertised which had the caption imprinted upon it
"I can explain it to you, I can not understand it for you."


Haha, I want one because I've been saying that for years.





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