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posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I'm a Christian and said roughly the same thing.

I thought you were a Protestant.

Where did you read me saying I'm a Catholic?


NOTurTypical ... he knows you are protestant.
He's saying that Protestants and Catholics BOTH aren't Christians.
Welcome to the judgemental B.S. that Catholics have to put up with.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by truejew
I am a Christian. Catholics/Protestants are not Christians.

Seriously dude .. :shk: and
and



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew
I am a Christian. Catholics/Protestants are not Christians.

Seriously dude .. :shk: and
and



It is the truth. Christianity existed before both of those groups.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew
I am a Christian. Catholics/Protestants are not Christians.

Seriously dude .. :shk: and
and


It is the truth. Christianity existed before both of those groups.

1 - That's wrong.
2 - Even if it were correct, that wouldn't make Catholics and Protestants 'non christians'. It would mean that Christianity had evolved or changed through the years, but it is still Christianity.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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God has always had a chosen people.
Old testament he favored the Jewish people.
Christ came into the world.
The Jewish people crucified Him.
He established a new church where by membership was open to all
who accepted Christ as their Savior.

The atholic church can trace its roots back to the wedding feast at Caana (sp).

Protestant churches can trace their roots back to a man who disagreed with the
Catholic Church. In the first instance Luther, Martin.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew
I am a Christian. Catholics/Protestants are not Christians.

Seriously dude .. :shk: and
and


It is the truth. Christianity existed before both of those groups.

1 - That's wrong.
2 - Even if it were correct, that wouldn't make Catholics and Protestants 'non christians'. It would mean that Christianity had evolved or changed through the years, but it is still Christianity.




1. The trinity was not a recorded doctrine until around 200 AD.

2. Incorrect since the original Church still exists.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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Protestantism is one of the major divisions within Christianity. It has been defined as "any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth" and, more broadly, to mean Christianity outside "of an Orthodox or Catholic church".


Protestantism.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I'm a Christian and said roughly the same thing.

I thought you were a Protestant.

Where did you read me saying I'm a Catholic?


NOTurTypical ... he knows you are protestant.
He's saying that Protestants and Catholics BOTH aren't Christians.
Welcome to the judgemental B.S. that Catholics have to put up with.


Well, it seems he doesn't know the definition of Protestant. Or what theological boundaries separate them from Catholic or Orthodox Christianity.



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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Catholicism and Protestantism are perversions of Christianity.

Christianity says, The Lord our God is one Lord.

Catholicism and Protestantism says, The Lord our God is three gods/persons, only one in unity.
edit on 2-4-2013 by truejew because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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What Does it Mean That God is a Trinity?

The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons--the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.


Doctrine of the Trinity.


As is usually the case, you have an incomplete/erroneous view of what the Trinity is. And why do you have to turn every discussion into a debate about Trinitarianism? Why don't you post in any one of the threads dedicated to that particular topic?
edit on 2-4-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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As is usually the case, you have an incomplete/erroneous view of what the Trinity is.


Or are you still deceived into believing that "three distinct persons" who speak to each other are not three gods.


Originally posted by NOTurTypical

And why do you have to turn every discussion into a debate about Trinitarianism?


The discussion turned into a "is Catholicism and Protestantism Christianity" discussion. The trinity is doctrine number 1 that makes the two groups pagan and not Christian and would be impossible to not mention.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 05:15 AM
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Actually changing the subject to Catholicism VS Protestantism is just as off-topic as trying to discuss the Trinity.

Make a thread, it's simple to do.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
 


Actually changing the subject to Catholicism VS Protestantism is just as off-topic as trying to discuss the Trinity.

Make a thread, it's simple to do.


I was discussing Easter being a Catholic, Protestant and non Christian holiday. It was others who took what I said and changed the subject.



posted on Apr, 3 2013 @ 11:33 AM
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I'm sure most everyone knows that already.



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 11:52 AM
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If they knew it, would they still be in it?



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by truejew
Easter is a Catholic holiday with pagan traditions. Christmas is also. True Christians should avoid them and keep the Christian Passover.


There is no Christian Passover.
It is Resurection Day that we celebrate.

It is true that Easter and Christmas, through Catholic influence, are basically pagan traditions incorporated into Christian traditions. But one does not stop celebrating the birth of our Savior or His resurection because others have corrupted the traditions.

It is what is in our hearts that matter, not whether we put gifts under a tree or hunt colored eggs.



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by truejew
I am a Christian. Catholics/Protestants are not Christians.

Seriously dude .. :shk: and
and


It is the truth. Christianity existed before both of those groups.

1 - That's wrong.
2 - Even if it were correct, that wouldn't make Catholics and Protestants 'non christians'. It would mean that Christianity had evolved or changed through the years, but it is still Christianity.




1. The trinity was not a recorded doctrine until around 200 AD.

2. Incorrect since the original Church still exists.


The "Church" is the body of Christ, nothing more and nothing less. The body of Christ consists of all who accept Him as their Salvation through the shedding of His blood.
Any congregation that declares they are the true and only church is mistaken and is misleading the believers.



posted on Apr, 4 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by truejew
Catholicism and Protestantism are perversions of Christianity.

Christianity says, The Lord our God is one Lord.

Catholicism and Protestantism says, The Lord our God is three gods/persons, only one in unity.
edit on 2-4-2013 by truejew because: (no reason given)


With all due respect
I would prefer if you trolled on another site
NOT in my thread

It was a genuine question in the OP that you chose to twist
Thank you to all involved for keeping your tempers.
I applaud you and apologize for any bad blood caused by this thread.
That was not my intent.

Cody



posted on Apr, 5 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by 1PLA1

Originally posted by truejew
Easter is a Catholic holiday with pagan traditions. Christmas is also. True Christians should avoid them and keep the Christian Passover.


There is no Christian Passover.


You are incorrect. The Lord's Supper, given at Passover, is Christian Passover.



posted on Apr, 5 2013 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by 1PLA1

The "Church" is the body of Christ, nothing more and nothing less. The body of Christ consists of all who accept Him as their Salvation through the shedding of His blood.
Any congregation that declares they are the true and only church is mistaken and is misleading the believers.



Any "Church" that teaches against repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, gift of the Holy Spirit, and teaches three gods, is not in the Body of Christ.




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