Sorry Mates. Australia To Cut Out US Dollar.

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posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by salainen

Originally posted by kwakakev
It does sound like global demand for the USD is on the decline, so watch out for an increase in inflation pressure. In the short term the stock market will soak up a lot of this extra capital so things will still look good on the surface, but how this translates to the standard of living on main street is where the true measure is at.

I have no idea how much the US will lose and other nations save as the middleman is taken out of currency exchanges. A single national currency will never work as a global standard, just to many conflicts of interest and points of abuse.
edit on 31-3-2013 by kwakakev because: spelling


I've been wondering with this Cyprus bank fiasco, could Australia get into a similar position? And what would it take to cause such a problem in countries outside Europe. I know the Australian dollar is very strong at the moment, but the Euro is still stronger, and Europe is in a bad state.


I'm pretty sure aussies will be ok.Much to the chagrin(sp?) of many LNP supporters, the alp have managed to not just keep us out of recession, but have helped in the formation of hundreds of thousands of jobs. (I think it was 900000) the graph below shows how strong our economy is comparing GDP to other countries. sure, it would be awsome if we had no debt, but given the GFC, we're in pretty good shape.

Here's the graph:
www.facebook.com...

Our only problem will arise if the LNP get into power after the election at the end of this year. Their leader has vowed to turn back many of the reforms put in place by the present govt. and remove such things as the carbon tax and mining tax. But he hasn't shown how he will pay for many of the other reforms that he said he will keep once he has taken the razor to these good policies. so the only way he can pay for them is to claw back, pension benefits, remove the 18000 dollar tax free threshold and take it back to the pittance at which it was, and claw back things that helped out the battlers like the school kids bonus.
so if they get into power, I believe that our economy will 1) unravel or 2) the less fortunate in the community will wear the brunt of the pain (it happened before, they gloated about how well off our country was while pensioners didn't have enough to make ends meet).

and if that is the case, then the people who voted him in will deserve everything they get (or lose to be more to the point)


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posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by wemustbreakyou
 


F**k the Asian Century... How about we just stay out of everyones business and look after ourselves for a change? Piss in the USA's pocket and we are on our own, simple.


LOL You make it sound angry, but it makes perfect sense. We are not in economic competition with other countries. Only the filthy rich are. I try not to buy foreign products that we can make here in the U.S., and I don't expect other countries to buy our stuff if they make it there.

What we need is Equal Trade for those things that we can't make or grow here. Equal, as in why should one country profit over another?
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posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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It wasn't mate. He used it as plural. just doesn't fit in how it is used. Like when americans say ossy for aussie there's a zzzz type sound not an sss type sound. And you can think my posts are totally rediculous, I've got broad shoulders. But I stick by my original thoughts. It just doesn't sound right imo. I am allowed to have an opinion aren't I? Just like you are ............... and even sandbox boy




posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by pheonix358
 

I just thought I'd mention that not all Americans are unaware of Australia's contributions in places like Vietnam. The Aussie bush pilots had a bit of a legend built for themselves. It seems they rarely, if ever, met a place they wouldn't drop or fly into, to get Americans out. Damn any lines on the map or pesky ground fire. A good number of Americans owe their getting home to those pilots.



I have to agree with Wrabbit. Those of us in this discussion who are American should not forget that the Australian fighting man has proven his mettle many times over. Australia has been one of our most steadfast allies, and have stood by us even through thick and thin. Lets not belittle all of Australia just because one fifty-cent stooge decided to go on a naive anti-American rant.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
does anyone think that there may be chinese guys on ATS trying to stir up crap? you know, the old divide and conquer concept....and....wealthy australians, as well as wealthy americans, don't give a damn about what the common folk of either country cares about.


Thats what the fifty-cent party is, basically paid shills for the Chinese government who go on all sorts of forums to stir up sh*t.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
does anyone think that there may be chinese guys on ATS trying to stir up crap? you know, the old divide and conquer concept....and....wealthy australians, as well as wealthy americans, don't give a damn about what the common folk of either country cares about.


I'm sure some people think that, but they're wrong.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:06 AM
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My Chinese masters do not pay anyone
The greatest country on earth is all powerful and everyone living there is happy and content, our water tastes like honey and all countries will enjoy the security and prosperity China brings to all
.



I hope I get my 100 bucks soon



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe
I'm pretty sure aussies will be ok.Much to the chagrin(sp?) of many LNP supporters, the alp have managed to not just keep us out of recession, but have helped in the formation of hundreds of thousands of jobs. (I think it was 900000) the graph below shows how strong our economy is comparing GDP to other countries. sure, it would be awsome if we had no debt, but given the GFC, we're in pretty good shape.

Here's the graph:
www.facebook.com...

Our only problem will arise if the LNP get into power after the election at the end of this year. Their leader has vowed to turn back many of the reforms put in place by the present govt. and remove such things as the carbon tax and mining tax. But he hasn't shown how he will pay for many of the other reforms that he said he will keep once he has taken the razor to these good policies. so the only way he can pay for them is to claw back, pension benefits, remove the 18000 dollar tax free threshold and take it back to the pittance at which it was, and claw back things that helped out the battlers like the school kids bonus.
so if they get into power, I believe that our economy will 1) unravel or 2) the less fortunate in the community will wear the brunt of the pain (it happened before, they gloated about how well off our country was while pensioners didn't have enough to make ends meet).

and if that is the case, then the people who voted him in will deserve everything they get (or lose to be more to the point)


edit on 31-3-2013 by greatfriendbadfoe because: (no reason given)


Looks like we're on the same page in our political opinions. If you want to know about what I think about the LNP, note that I'm from Queensland, voted for the ALP, and have a look at what happened to us with Newman. The LNP will win the election though, no doubt about that. And who knows what will happen with bloody Tony Abbot in charge... And sure, those who elect him in do deserve what they get, but what about us who don't want him? And to be quite honest, with all this leadership stuff, I probably won't vote for ALP this year.


Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe
It wasn't mate. He used it as plural. just doesn't fit in how it is used.


Yeah, so what if he calls everyone in the world his mates. I certainly don't mind if he calls American's his mates, I've got nothing against the American's myself either.


Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe
And you can think my posts are totally rediculous, I've got broad shoulders.


Like I care, I'm behind my keyboard. Your shoulder's might not be any broader than mine anyways. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, my opinion is that the post declaring that someone is un-Australian for calling someone, anyone, his mate, was completely ridiculous.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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The largest commodity exchange in the world is the CME in Chicago.
it trades in US$



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Antonio1
 


My Chinese masters do not pay anyone
The greatest country on earth is all powerful and everyone living there is happy and content, our water tastes like honey and all countries will enjoy the security and prosperity China brings to all
.



I hope I get my 100 bucks soon

Why comrade, you'll get 100 Chairman Mao funbucks. Of course, first you have to write a series of ridiculously over-the-top anti-American and anti-Western posts under a series of different accounts. And, you'll have to focus on Australia, because we glorious revolutionary socialist workers of the freedom loving People's Republic are obsessed with the land down under for some reason.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe
reply to post by salainen
 


It wasn't mate. He used it as plural. just doesn't fit in how it is used. Like when americans say ossy for aussie there's a zzzz type sound not an sss type sound. And you can think my posts are totally rediculous, I've got broad shoulders.


Bold text disproves broken keyboard theory. Seriously, just take that one extra second to proof read what you type and people might have more time for your opinions--it is insufferably selfish to expect people to read through a wall of spelling and grammatical errors.


But I stick by my original thoughts. It just doesn't sound right imo. I am allowed to have an opinion aren't I? Just like you are ............... and even sandbox boy



And what makes you think I'm a boy? Did it not occur I might be female?



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:19 AM
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haha this is coming form an american whose President bows before the Queen, How did trying to make English Banks accountable for the Libor scandal for the manipulation of exchange rates go for you.? Ask your long suffering mortgagors who lost their homes?

Had much luck getting rid of JP Morgan or Wall ST, your real controllers

"We are a prison state?" ...no not yet we still need our version of the Patriot Act II. What about the REal ID act causing US drivers to go through hoops to even renewing and continuing driving

(6 Weeks to Renew an Existing Driver's License, Coming to Your State Soon!, www.abovetopsecret.com...)

Hows the DHS working out for you, I think nazi Germany had looser travel conditions in the 30s

But anyway this Aussie/US debate is meaningless, the die was cast at the last Bilderberger meeting as to how events will unfold. You and I are just little cogs in the machine, work for 30/40 years in slavery retire and die. We are fed crumbs and bread and circuses. The collapse of the $US and the US economy is coming real soon. I mean $70 trillion in derivatives is gonna be paid off with a new Platinum Visa Card? or 3-4 generations of your descendants.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:25 AM
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To sum it up politely for you sir;
1 we don't need your country.
2 we don't need any country
3 what we need is to get our own country's affairs in order.
4 stop out sourcing our jobs.
5 become independent once again.
6 and live free as we were met to.
7 it is getting to out of hand.we are not your police or anyone else out there in the world.
8 and our money should be returned to gold and silver,not paper.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by HairlessApe

Originally posted by jimmyx
does anyone think that there may be chinese guys on ATS trying to stir up crap? you know, the old divide and conquer concept....and....wealthy australians, as well as wealthy americans, don't give a damn about what the common folk of either country cares about.


I'm sure some people think that, but they're wrong.


uhmm....what part is wrong or are both parts wrong? and how would YOU be so absolutely sure?...do you have knowledge and/or control of every poster on ATS? being on this site so long, i believe there are posters who find delight in schadenfreude en.wikipedia.org...

pitting like-minded people against each other, is so common that it has turned into a cliche.
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posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:31 AM
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at least we weren't literally the place where Great Britain sent its most violent offenders for life imprisonment.


Most convicts were mere people who stole to eat or other minor crimes. But hey your democratic nation sneaks into countries kidnaps suspects then sends them off to Egypt to be interogated.

Lets not forget your own Civil War (Over economics I might add and not the misconception about slavery) where at least 600,000 died...hmmm...the Land of the free, I think not



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by cartenz

Bold text disproves broken keyboard theory. Seriously, just take that one extra second to proof read what you type and people might have more time for your opinions--it is insufferably selfish to expect people to read through a wall of spelling and grammatical errors.



Actually, as he said he said that he pastes letters in from elsewhere (not sure why?), it could actually prove that his keyboard is broken (and he hasn't figured out that there is an onboard keyboard on Windows, Ubuntu, and probably even the Mac OS). Its a pretty poor thing to be arguing about though, his keyboard, seriously? But yes, I agree, he really needs to organize his posts. As do I.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:41 AM
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My mistake, many times I type he/she but this time I didn't. By the way, did you try the s thing? if you did,how about having the "balls" or whatever equivalent part you might or might not have to admit that what I said was true. and sorry, didn't get the bold type thing, but then again, by this stage, I am not all that interested in trying to fathom out what it was all about as I don't suffer fools easily and imo you fit that bag. but, ....... that's just my opinion. so as far as I am concerned, just go stick your head in the sand of that sandbox. I am over your useless banter.
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posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:47 AM
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My issue is the accusations of being non-Australians; And being called a dipstick--I am happy to pull apart the falsehoods presented by someone so willing to blame their illiteracy on a faulty keyboard. I'm even more pleased to carry on the argument, when said person resorts to personal insults.

In IT we call them PICNIC errors. Problem In Chair, Not In Computer.

Don't worry, I'll get bored soon.



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:51 AM
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ah, if you're talking about the bold text in the link in one of my posts, it came from another post in which the graph was relevant (sp?) and I didn't do the bold thing, it just happened (it was a copy and paste).

so wake up and see that I do have a broken keyboard.
every now and then you might see that instead of an s in a word there is a v and most of the time I catch them but now and then I miss. But from now on, every time I DO miss one, I will think of the egg on your face for your lack of initial insight way back when you first tried to show how awsome you were



posted on Mar, 31 2013 @ 07:53 AM
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Dropping the dollar uh? That's just near sightedness.

We spend more on our war machine annually than the next 12 countries combined.

Pretty much everyone who has their feathers ruffled right now has an American
snickering in the shadows.

Its called investing in the future, yay tho I walk through the vally...ext...ext..
the bottom line is we have the bigger stick.

All praise the almighty dollar, are see that hell cometh for ye.

THE END DRAWS NEAR REPENT, AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED





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