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Should Liberals Be Allowed To Emigrate To Conservative States?

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posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 12:18 AM

Originally posted by FaithandArms

This is why I had removed Texas from the list of states I was considering. Beautiful state and GREAT people that live there, but seeing all the liberals flock there for the $$$$ is seeing the writing on the wall for Texas's future.

Thanks for removing Texas from your list! I, as a native Texan wouldn't want you associating with us liberal Texans who were born and raised in Texas. Keep your insults in yankee land.

posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 01:42 AM
reply to post by AceWombat04

Actually I think you will be surprised that I agree with 99% of what you expressed here. I actually have no problem taking care of our own. That is the truly disabled, especially our veterans (who deserve the very best we can give them), the sick, and the elderly. I would much rather see our tax dollars spent on job training and placement for the unemployed than sending billions to countries that despise us. For that matter I would rather see the money given to our poor and homeless to do with as they see fit rather than give it away to foreign countries, or spent on foreign wars that have no benefit to the American people. That is an exaggeration, but I think you get my point. I believe most Americans are very generous people, but they can't afford to be generous when there is no prosperity. You might also note that studies have shown that conservatives are more generous than liberals.

The 1% where I completely disagree is when you say more anti-conservative than liberal. It's the same thing! If you are conservative, it means you believe in conserving and defending the original intent of The Constitution. Conservative means less taxes, less spending, less laws, and less government involvement in our lives. Being conservative, or libertarian means limiting federal and state governments to the things directly authorized by The Constitution. In other words the government belongs to the people, not the other way around.

posted on Apr, 2 2013 @ 03:36 AM
reply to post by vtr99

Well what I meant by describing some of my friends as "anti-conservative more so than liberal," is that they seem more interested in marginalizing and, frankly, hating conservatives. I guess I just don't see dehumanizing "the other side" as they would put it, as a particularly liberal seeming thing to do. It's certainly not something I have any interest in, despite being what most people would consider pretty damned liberal.

I think it's good that we've had this exchange. We've demonstrated that someone who considers themselves liberal and someone who considers themselves conservative can say, "I actually agree with 99% of what you just said" to one another, even while they might profoundly disagree about other things that are extremely relevant to them. I guess my biggest point was simply that we need to keep this kind of dialogue and good will going.

All I see all day is how much the two sides loathe each other. And I keep telling everyone I know that I don't loathe anyone and don't want to make "the other side's" pursuit of happiness difficult or impossible based on their own standards and beliefs because that would make me incredibly hypocritical in my view. But most people I know are so caught up in the "clash" that they can't have any empathy or appreciation for where the "other side" is coming from whatsoever. And that saddens me. It's so bad that one day when I actually stuck up for a conservative friend's points, my other friends told me, "You sound like you have Stockholm syndrome." It was very dismissive and insulting both to me and to my conservative friend.

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posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 01:21 PM
The biggest of the 'Big Government' programs is the Pentagon, and that's hardly a 'Liberal' construct.

Most people I know on the left hand side of things would like the Pentagon to be almost completely defunded, and those monies spent for things like infrastructure repair, Social Security so that Gramma doesn't need to eat dog food to survive, and decent free education for all up to and including college.

Of course, I suppose all those things are socialism, which you Texans (who gave us GWB, one of the most egregious mass murderers in history) think is a bad thing...

posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 01:48 PM

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Liberals and Conservatives have many different values, liberal love of big government being just one of them. Thus my question. Let's take California as just one example. California is broke. Businesses are fleeing the state in droves. This leaves fewer jobs in California inducing some liberals to move to conservative states since that is where the jobs are. However, when the libs get to the conservative states they want to start changing the laws to match the liberal hell hole they just left. IMO, liberals should be forced to live with the consequences of their actions and stay in the liberal states. What does everybody else think?
edit on 30-3-2013 by DarthMuerte because: (no reason given)

Translation: "I'm a freedom loving Conservative that hates "big government", But I want Government to force people to live in certain states".

Irony and Hyporcisy don't even begin to describe what I just read.
edit on 7-4-2013 by xedocodex because: (no reason given)

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