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What both alternatives do, is add consciousness in the mix. That's the only way forward. Nowadays people love to dismiss it as some deterministic chemical process, but it's not working out. The evolution theory probably would become complete, if consciousness was added to it, and maybe the two alternatives above will no longer be needed. I obviously don't know which one is right or isn't right, but, that's why we should have the right to question. If we stay in the evolution vs creationism paradigm, we'll keep going in circles forever.
So, have you any alternatives to Evolution?
Not sure if your answer gives much relief from the sadness I feel in seeing these beautiful giants of the oceans floor continue to float dead to the surface.
Originally posted by antar
reply to post by Astyanax
Not sure if your answer gives much relief from the sadness I feel in seeing these beautiful giants of the oceans floor continue to float dead to the surface. It just "Feels" wrong to me and another indication that the entire eco system is in one of the greatest challenges of my lifetime. I LOVE the oceans so much and have seen so much negative change. As for the bottleneck effect, I was mistaken.
Originally posted by Astyanax
The population crash and genetic bottleneck we're discussing in this species occurred tens of thousands of years ago—if it occurred at all.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by Astyanax
I am here to support those that have seen that evolution is bogus, people have figured it out, but are perhaps agnostic towards biblical creation.
Guess why ?
Because they are one step ahead of those that still believe in a theory that has so many holes in it, it makes swiss cheese look solid.
Originally posted by rhinoceros
Darwin's original publication had one major hole, but I'm almost certain you don't know it (and anyway it was resolved a long time ago).