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6 Weeks to Renew an Existing Driver's License, Coming to Your State Soon!

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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:06 AM
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I can't even imagine what I would have to go through to get a passport just to get off this rock.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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How will Obama renew his licence when he can't find his original birth certificate ?

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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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I live in West Virginia and it was the same when I went to switch my DL over to this state.
They wanted everything, ORIGINAL, except a blood sample.

The funny thing was.. they wanted a lease: I rent from my Uncle, so he made one up on the spot and put a bunch of 'filler' in it. It isn't legal and we don't abide by it, but the DMV wanted it so I gave it to them. They wanted a 'Voters Registration Card' as proof of ID.

You know how you obtain a VRC? Apply for one ON PAPER WITH NO PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION, wait for them to mail you a sheet saying 'If we dont hear from you in ten days, we'll send out your new card'. Wait.. and bam, theres your new card in the mail. No picture ID, no proof that I am who I say I am, just an application I filled out and could have put 'Flintstone' as my last name..

And yet this is one of the MUST-HAVE pieces of ID for the DMV? That didn't sit right with me..

At the time, however, Federal ID's were an 'option'. They explained that 'It would allow easier access to government buildings and airplanes' -- I looked at them like they were crazy and said NOPE. Don't want one.

My ID/DL isn't due to expire until 2017 because I got caught on some loophole where I get a 7-year loop vs the standard 5 years? I dont know, it's all confusing.

Long story short, it took me 3 separate trips, 2 weeks of waiting, and a bunch of useless paperwork with no real backing to it.. to get my standard drivers license. Should I have gotten a Federal ID? Well, we'll see if the country lasts until 2017.

Not to mention the fact that utilities are in my Uncle's name, so getting a utility bill in MY name to prove I lived where I do... what the heck? I wasn't about to do that just to get an ID, that's ridiculous. It was a 80-ring Circus, believe you-me.

- Fim
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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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Excellent post. This is the stuff that needs to be discussed, as it's the Nanny State government burdening us with thousands of restrictions, taxes, fees, licenses, this that and the other thing. We cannot spend one day without worrying about something. The Elites know that if they can tie us up every day with so much made up nonsense, we will never have any time to pursue our God-Reality.
The state I just moved from had all that stuff and gave me a paper with all the items listed. I knew right away it was more Socialist bureaucracy brought to us by our dear leader. Then I moved to another State and but I had to establish residency, so it didn't occur to me why I had to provide a utility bill. And I was complaining that I couldn't get my license on the spot! In Florida they make them up for you right there, but here they mail it to you and it takes almost a week. Also the benefit of a small town, only one person ahead of me in line.
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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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Not legal. Even within state, Georgia is very anal about drivers licenses having a current address. I've forgotten the exact time frame, but I once got a ticket for not having my current address on my D/L and I'd only moved about two weeks prior. That was about 12 years ago now and I cannot recall if that charge got dropped or if I paid a fine. When I first moved to the small town I live in, I guess I was considered an outsider and got pulled over probably 50-60 times in that first year and was given at least 2 dozen tickets - almost all of which were dropped in court.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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There was a lot of talk about needing the original. Hence the link to the GA DDS website.

I too was born in GA ... Albany, at Turner Air Force Base, now closed. Bought my certified copy back in 2004. Needed it to get my CDL. So far it's been accepted everywhere it's been needed.

The residency requirements are hard for me though. I call GA my home state, but I don't have a home here. I drive truck. I'm not going to pay for a home for only 4-5 days a month. I've been told by DDS that they'll accept receipts from a hotel though, which is where I do stay those few days of 'hometime'..

And yeah. I'm single. Family's all up in the northeast.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
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Not legal. Even within state, Georgia is very anal about drivers licenses having a current address. I've forgotten the exact time frame, but I once got a ticket for not having my current address on my D/L and I'd only moved about two weeks prior. That was about 12 years ago now and I cannot recall if that charge got dropped or if I paid a fine. When I first moved to the small town I live in, I guess I was considered an outsider and got pulled over probably 50-60 times in that first year and was given at least 2 dozen tickets - almost all of which were dropped in court.


Well, i don't know. Sounds okay to me. Be honest.

"Is this your current address?" Yes, it is. I actually own a Single Family Home in

the great state of Montana. My name is on the title. Here is my utility bill from last month.

I'm just here visiting a friend.

"Okay. Have a nice day."

It's not illegal to have 2 homes in different states. I guess a lawyer could verify my

- work around -.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Original is just a copy they send out, because I would guess that over 2/3rds dont have the original given to them at birth. For example, here in Canada, we don't have original, nor do I still have my marriage certificate, divorce stuff, all that is something that would take money to resend for. I got the pocket wallet birth certificates but when my two sons went for their status they needed me to send for a certain birth certificate, and it all cost money getting various ID's, and having to get a doctor who knew them both, so dad drove them to their hometown, and paid for the whole trip, to say she knew them. Most don't have their original anything, its just a different type of birth certificate you pay for.
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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by bigyin
How will Obama renew his licence when he can't find his original birth certificate ?

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Heh heh just made my day with this post!



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Wow, just wow. What a nightmare. The part about the bills, home ownership and taxes threw me. We had to provide original birth certificates the last time I renewed, but none of that other stuff. Major privacy invasion! Just to drive?? There is another agenda here.

Off topic, but relevant:
Meanwhile there was a horrific accident near where I live, a semi-tractor trailer driver, crushed a car and pickup, while they were stopped at a stop light, into another semi, killing both people in those vehicles. The driver of the semi was going over the speed limit, made no attempt to stop, and the important part, was a Chinese national. Once again, like airport security measures, American citizens are harassed and those who the laws are meant to stop, aren't phased at all.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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I wrote current president's name and you think it matters. This is about: an invasive law, and would love the Supreme Court to have overturned as that one wrote. Couldn't find any articles about it. We don't have it here in Canada. It would force so much money to be spent sending for replacement documents and take so long that it would be sickening.

Who the hell would allow a police state where you show your little scannable card that has everything on it like that? Papers please! "Yes officer, I hope you under stand , ie stand under your employer class citizen, for you work for me, I will be handing you a paper, its a certified citizens review of your job and possible firing and arrest for fascism!" That should be everyone's response! We should make Tshirts up like that!


I didn't respond as I did because of the fact that you wrote Obama's name in your post but rather because of the many responses to this thread that are attempting to depict this problem as one of Obama's creations when nothing could be further from the truth. I didn't mean to imply that you were one of those individuals.

I agree that this law is indeed intrusive and I wanted to point out the fact that Obama, not only agrees with us but is supportive of having the law repealed, as is his appointee to head up the Dept. of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano.

www.cnn.com...


Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano this week said she is working with governors to repeal the Real ID Act, which was passed in 2005 and went into effect last year.


www.jsonline.com...


Washington — Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is asking Congress to repeal a post-Sept. 11, 2001, law that was meant to enhance the security of driver's licenses but has elicited the wrath of governors nationwide who say it is too costly.




Because of his known opposition to the law, I doubt that you will find us in a position where,


Obama has gutted the Supreme Court


It's statements like that one that the very people responsible for this debacle in the first place like to turn into little slogans that they pick up and run with, thereby perpetuating their ability to sponsor even more of their intrusive brand of legislation.

Those truly responsible need to be recognized and replaced and this was the point of my post. I didn't mean to offend you in any way and I'm sorry if I did.


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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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This is a spin-off of homeland security.....I don't want to be THAT secure.

Of course! None of this is for our security, it is to tie us up in continual knots and invade our privacy, and for data mining. If they wanted to stop illegals coming over the porous border they would do it. As always, the citizens have to suffer.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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Wow. Here in Texas every single I, or anyone I know, goes to get something done at the DPS, it is ridiculous. They must train the workers to be exceedingly rude and tell them to act stupid, unless the majority of the people they hire are just that way. My most recent experience was when I took my little brother to get his license after he had done his driver training. OMG, first they said he needs to do this, and bring this. Okay, so after we did that, we are told to bring something else. We were a pretty long ways away from the DPS office, which they purposefully made hard to get to it seems, since it is in the middle of nowhere, so I did not want to go back and forth too many times.

We ended up having to go back 4 different times to get one thing accomplished. The stupid person working there tells us to bring this and that, and when we do that, they tell us to bring something else. Why in the world didn't they say that in the first place? That was just recently. I have heard some horror stories, and they all seem to stem from the people working there, who make it worse because of their attitude. If you do not like your job, do not take it out on the people, because that is your problem. I think they act that way because the people coming in are not really customers, and they are not worried about being fired.

I know this because I called to complain about this woman once, who should not have been working with people to begin with, and the state does not care one bit. So I can just imagine what things will be like if this is implemented, if it hasn't been already. What you describe is just ridiculous imo, and this is just another example of the government being out of touch with the people. Their reasoning is not solid either. There are much better things that could be done.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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I didn't respond as I did because of the fact that you wrote Obama's name in your post but rather because of the many responses to this thread that are attempting to depict this problem as one of Obama's creations when nothing


Of course you are right, O is just the current face on the poster, and Real ID predates his Presidency. It would have happened regardless. But one has to admit that O has hyperspaced us into Nanny Statism.

There is only one reason dear leader would have it repealed, and that is so illegals are not challenged. He wants all illegals to be comfy here and not have any issues. But make no mistake, he is not concerned with burdening us with a million bureaucratic details or he would not have pushed Obamacare the way he did.
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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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Well, with some of the current issues, it seems the constitution is being attacked strongly in the US. Anyone forgot the gun issue? Now there is a bill introduced doing away with term limits, which hopefully will never see the light of day in getting passed. To me its like Bush put in things to set up, Obama's term in office, and they're all working together, ie. the bildenberg set of elites is in control of both. One paved the way for the other, and it wouldn't have mattered which person got in. We'd still see something like sandy hook, and another attempt to reintroduce gun legislation, despite Supreme Court already ruling on it., etc. So to be fair, its not really Obama that gutted the constitution, its all of them.
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posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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This is a spin-off of homeland security.....I don't want to be THAT secure.

Of course! None of this is for our security, it is to tie us up in continual knots and invade our privacy, and for data mining. If they wanted to stop illegals coming over the porous border they would do it. As always, the citizens have to suffer.


Actually, it's a spin off of the anti-immigrant sentiment of the GOP. It's a GOP sponsored law that was pushed off on Homeland Security as they were tasked with enforcement.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:38 AM
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There is something very deceptive and inconspicuous going on in our beautiful country for a quite a while now. It finally appear more discernable to the general public...my redundant question is, "What can we really do about it?"



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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I feel like if you look at the requirements beforehand and apply 6+ weeks before you need your license renewed, there would be no problem with this.

I also feel many of you just like getting angry at anything our government does. Most of you'd still be complaining if it was only 2 weeks, not 6.



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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This is a spin-off of homeland security.....I don't want to be THAT secure.

Of course! None of this is for our security, it is to tie us up in continual knots and invade our privacy, and for data mining. If they wanted to stop illegals coming over the porous border they would do it. As always, the citizens have to suffer.


Actually, it's a spin off of the anti-immigrant sentiment of the GOP. It's a GOP sponsored law that was pushed off on Homeland Security as they were tasked with enforcement.


and your good ole Democrat Party will go along with it........



posted on Mar, 30 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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the world we live in is everyone is a criminal now until proven innocent .







 
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