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Originally posted by peck420
The only real question I see is:
When does a fetus become a 'person'?
There are already laws in place as to what can be done to a fetus, and what can be done to a 'person'.
Does the word "RESPONSIBLE" mean anything to you?
It's too bad you progressives don't apply your same reasoning to the rights of "RESPONSIBLE" gun owners
The fact that there are men and women out there so irresponsible that when they WHOOPS we made a mistake that MURDER is reasonable option???
I gotta love how you say it is between the doctor and patient, while in every other aspect of our lives in this country, you DEMAND BIG GOVERNMENT!
I am not totally against abortions, in the cases of rape,
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Southern Guardian
So it's not murder when the child is in the womb.
It's not murder when the child is out of the womb.
I'm really confused here. Because under Obamacare, they are still considered "children" under healthcare rules if they are under 26.
Yes it does. Is a woman responsible for getting pregnant because she was raped? responsibility you say huh? Come to think of it, there are many people who make irresponsible decisions on a daily basis, such as taking out a loan that they know they will not be able to afford in the future. Those people reap the consequences in the end, we can't stop them all from making irresponsible choices, tis life.
The OP has nothing to do with gun ownership. I never stated at any point that I opposed responsible gun ownership. More straw man arguments from you I see.
We're not discussing murder here, we're discussion abortions.
If a fertilized egg aborts, are you going to get the CSI in to investigate this as a murder and cordon off the woman's body like it's a crime scene. No, no you're not.
...and what are you doing here? You yourself want to grow government bigger, you want to expand their powers significantly, so that they can start monitoring the bodies of individual americans and start dictating to the women of this country what they can and cannot do with their bodies. There's a name in a dictionary you should look up, it's called hypocrisy and hypocrite. Check it out sometime.
So you call abortions murder, but then you support abortions in the case of rape? So by definition you support the murdering of an innocent "child" that was conceived through rape, right? But you don't support murder? Check out that dictionary definition on hypocrisy and hypocrite sometime.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
You don't get to misinterpret what she said in order to suit your opinion of what occurred.
She stated clearly, that Planned Parenthood supported the decisions made by the Parents and Doctors.
The question of pregnancy following one rape of someone aged 12 or older is interesting.
Yes it does. Is a woman responsible for getting pregnant because she was raped? responsibility you say huh?
In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped.8 According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.
This calculation does not account for the following factors which could lower the actual number of pregnancies:
•Rape, as defined by the NCVS, is forced sexual intercourse. Forced sexual intercourse means vaginal, oral, or anal penetration by offender(s). This category includes incidents where the penetration is from a foreign object such as a bottle. Certain types of rape under this definition cannot cause pregnancy.
•Some victims of rape may be utilizing birth control methods, such as the pill, which will prevent pregnancy.
•Some rapists may wear condoms in an effort to avoid DNA detection.
•Vicims of rape may not be able to become pregnant for medical or age-related reasons.
Government condones this special type of murder.
Anti-murder folks would like to get rid of governments interference, would like to get rid of governments permission to kill the unborn, or the born, or partially born.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by beezzer
Didn't expect this or your subsequent posts from you.
Murderous Progressives... really?
If you want to deny rights to those who have no voice, then you are free to do so.