40+ Officers & ATF Agents Raid Home of Youtube Gun Personality FPSRussia

reply to post by UltraMind

tannerite isn't really classified as an explosive. it is illegal to ship it/move it long distances once the two powders are mixed, but other than that it's completely legal. you can buy tannerite on ebay, and it can be sold without a license.

The federal government, not the state, governs the manufacture of explosives. They specifically exempt the need for an explosives manufacturing license in five separate statutes. In the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Publication 5400. Q&A section, question #48 expressly addresses that a license that a license is not needed for personal, non-commercial manufacture and use of binary explosives.

www.tannerite.com...

this is such a false pretense to search that it isn't even funny. i hope he sues all of them and takes them to the bank.

my apologies neo, i suppose i can see what you're saying. i didn't intend to be rude if you interpreted it as such.

Tannerite is also easily made from readily available ingredients that are sold for other purposes.
There are how-to videos on YouTube about it.

Posters have mentioned that he 'potentially' might break laws. Enough with the pre-crime crap.

Here's a question...
How much did the raid cost the taxpayers? The raid that netted nothing.

Originally posted by butcherguy
pre-crime crap

Hmm...retrial

I guess I will weigh in on the question of his intelligence.

A television show was made about crab fishermen, one of the most dangerous jobs around. People do dangerous things for money. They weigh the risk versus the money they can make doing the activity.

I see this guy as being more of a businessman than the guys catching crabs, working on another guys boat.

Originally posted by GuidedKill
Many years ago when I was a kid I lived out West in Colorado. This guy lived East of us and was a friend of my dads. We used to go out on the weekends and play. I have seen a few close calls but nothing makes you giggle like a child then blowing something up. Aww back in the days when CO was cool.....

hey i live down the road from dragon man. the discovery channel was out there filming for a show. some of the pyrotechnics went wrong and he lost his wife. aside from that, one really cool guy, with a tun of really cool toys that go boom really fast!!!

now with that said, it says on the tanerite lable not to put in side of any thing. it says to mix place on ground and stand back and shoot it. not to stick 200 lbs of it in a car and blow it up, and almost kil your self.

Looks like they would have something better to do than raiding the home of the coolest guy on the planet

Maybe they will go raid the skywalker ranch next

Sounds like we should disarm the atf

Myers was blowing up cars, refrigerators and other items for entertainment purposes.
A person is required to obtain a federal explosives manufacturing license if they intend to engage in the business of manufacturing explosives for sale, distribution or for their own business, Coes said.
The ATF believed that Myers was violating this law.
“The claim is that he was using explosives and getting paid for it via YouTube,” Coes said.

That stance isn't going to holdup in court. He makes money off advertising.

His business is not in guns, ammunition, or explosives. It's entertainment and information.

They have no case. At least, not with a good lawyer.

In the end it doesnt matter one bit if the feds have no case or the guy makes out with a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

The deed is done. The holy and righteous government got on TV chasing down an evil man with guns.

To this day legions of slobs still think the Hutaree guys are all guilty SOB's who deserve to hang and that Randy Weaver was some child raping klansman loving militant zealot despite the final outcomes.

When the headline this week reads: "Mr. Smith's home raided by FBI" nobody notices the blurb on page 8 that says "Mr. Smith awarded $10 million settlement for FBI violations" a month from now and five years from now all the morons will still reply with "that terrorist psycho?" when you ask them who Mr. Smith was and what did he do.

It's not illegal to posses, except if you're getting paid and don't have a "license".

They can't get away with taking the guns straight out so they will keep doing things like this, and 7 round mags only, and other similar methods aimed at going around the second amendment. They will clearly try to intimidate you, and even if you are not arrested the agents of the beast can still ruin your livelihood by harassing people you know, employers, etc.

reply to post by tyranny22

That stance isn't going to holdup in court. He makes money off advertising. His business is not in guns, ammunition, or explosives. It's entertainment and information. They have no case. At least, not with a good lawyer.

he doesn't even need a good lawyer. federal law is quite clear on binary compounds for personal use and even sale. so long as they're not being transported in their combined state, it's completely legal without a license.

whatever judge signed off on this warrant needs to be removed and charged with perjury, as do the agents who conducted the raid.

this could be turned into a very positive thing for gun owners if done right. exposing the corrupt agenda of gun grabbing is crucial. make no mistake, this was not about tannerite. authorities have contacted him before to inform him that something was illegal instead of busting in with agents. he's been watched for a long time, and i don't think they can stand him showing everyone that all the guns he possesses and demonstrates are completely legal.

he was informed that a spring loaded ballistics knife is illegal if you were wondering. he was informed before he made a video.

Originally posted by neo96
LOL getting busted was the best thing that happened to him

what a moron.

yep a moron thats made A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY playing with guns lol.

reply to post by Xieon

It's not illegal to posses, except if you're getting paid and don't have a "license".

the rest of your post is spot on, but this isn't exactly true. if he were using the explosive commercially for demolition as a means to make money you would be right, but in the same way that pornstars are paid because they're being filmed, and not because they're having sex, changes it from prostitution to a completely legal (and taxable ) venture.

in short, he isn't being paid to blow things up, he's being paid because a lot of people watch his videos. the majority of them don't even have him blowing up cars.

reply to post by Bob Sholtz

he was informed that a spring loaded ballistics knife is illegal if you were wondering. he was informed before he made a video.

Isn't this a crazy, whacky government that we have?

It is okay to own and fire a .50 caliber sniper rifle that can reach out and 'touch' someone at an extreme range. We can own compound bows that will put multi-blade razor sharp broadhead tipped arrows out 40 yards with good accuracy....

But it isn't okay to own a single-edged knife that propels the blade with a spring that is dangerous to what? A distance of 20 feet?

reply to post by butcherguy

very true, you'd be lucky to get someone at 20 feet, and even if you hit them, it's doubtful that you'll do much damage and you'll be without a knife blade. i'd rather have a .22 magnum derringer revolver.

the interesting tidbit for me is that they informed him prior to his making the video. i'm sure he mentioned it in a previous video, but it goes to show how the climate has changed. they could have let him film the video and busted him afterwards, but now they raid his house on a trumped up charge.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by neo96

 

Yeah. He actually was making money because people were watchinng his channel. The govt doesn't like people making money on their own. I also believe he sold his own line of exploding targets so maybe that had something to do with it, but what it really comes down to is the govt didn't like him making guns more popular, they didn't like him making money, and having influence, so they violated his rights.

i heard, as an apology, they sent him an autographed obama shirt, that reads "you didn't build that"

FPSRussia compound raid leaves 40-plus ATF, FBI agents empty-handed

rt.com...

dirty satire

Originally posted by Instructoralpha
Back on topic:

Maybe the OP is implying that 40+ officers is excessive?

Speaking for myself Id look at it from the standpoint of known intel:

He has access to automatic weapons

He has access to explosives

I dont know his current mindset, just his web based persona

One of his known associates is dead

His experience level is shall we say less than stellar, as proved by almost blowing his own head off.

Im going to say based on my own experience in the military, im pretty damn sure im not going to his front door without some kind of back up. The truth is you just dont know what people will do until you know. The guy absolutely had the ability and opportunity to ruin the ATF's day if he chose to, at least as evidenced by what weve seen him playing with on the videos. Whether he actually owned the guns is an unknown factor. Even if he doesnt, how do you know they are not stored on his property. Im not going to bad mouth the ATF or law enforcement for using common sense on this one.

Was 40 officers too many? now in hindsight, yeah. Because no report of an arrest was made as of yet.

But lets face it, if he wasnt just a law abiding citizen exercising his 2nd amendment right....it couldve been pretty ugly.

As a law enforcement officer, would you make a decision to bring back up to this scenario? If the difference meant you may not go home at the end of your shift i think you would.

yes, but there's a not unsubstantial difference between "backup", and 39+ agents/officers....

10 would have sufficed...hell, 5 probably would have done the trick.

all 40 agents does is make a big headline, cause a spectacle. and make people think something major happened....it's more psyop bulls**t from the feds, to discredit gun owners...

the average dumb citizen is going to see the headline "40+ officers and ATF raid home of youtube gun celebrity", and immediately think "oh, he must have done something terrible, for them to need that many people"...and then they read the slanted MSM article, and come to the conclusion that since he fired guns on video, he's some sort of firebreathing monster, and that his guns are magically imbued with the ability to aim and fire themselves, and that there NEEDED to be that may people for the raid, because of the "scary black guns"...

it's just more propaganda crap..

i hope FPSRussia sues the s**t out of them..

Originally posted by Daedalus

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
I'm disappointed to find out he isn't Russian.

actually, he pretty much is..

he comes from Georgia...not coke-a-cola headquarters, Georgia, but the former soviet state of Georgia....

Got a link to prove that? Wikipedia says he's from the actual state of Georgia, and he does all his filming on his family farm in Georgia.

Pretty sure this guy is a born and bred American playing a Russian for entertainment.

reply to post by intrptr


Why did you skim over the part that said he was blowing things up illegally?

Stop trying to trump up the "dey terk er guns" crowd when the guy in question was likely violating the law!