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Tell me about Magick.
Originally posted by Bybyots
Some types of magician's and alchemists search for all sorts of consistencies and correlations in texts, you can imagine the amount of reading and education that it requires for a person to develop their own internal database of all this stuff, so that they have a conceptual resource with which to compare everything else. This is how Alchemical symbolism is supposed to be able to 'come alive' in the mind of the reader to instruct at the level intended by the author: the reader needs one of these internal databases from which to operate.
Originally posted by jcutler12888
If you want a few kinds to consider for study and discussion, here's a short list...
Originally posted by swan001
Hm, I got a question for you, regarding the 18th Level (rosicrucianism) which I would like to discuss over U2U. If you don't mind, of course.
Depends on who you ask. But a lot of people from those disciplines that practice "magick," use this spelling to segregate it from the illusionary stage magic tricks.
For them, the end result of the working is the focus, not the getting there. It is a form of manifestation using ritualistic "tools" to focus energy and bring it into your reality (or pull you to the reality where the end result has a higher probability of happening). For those that use magick, they will tell you that it absolutely works, but it isn't like making a wish to a genie, it will take some time for the magick to complete and the end result to occur.
So, you could say that magick works, and it doesn't work based on your belief system. No matter what you choose, you will be right.
Originally posted by onequestion
reply to post by network dude
Defining magick.... Heh. It's not that easy trust. Magic is not a spell or a ritual. It's deeper then that and in order to discover its truth you need to define it yourself. I can't do that for you.
I told you where to start if you think you can handle it when I get home I will incorporate more information for you. Don't listen to simpleton ideas and explanations I cannot define what it is for you you can only discover that truth for yourself. Anyone who is truly initiated can tell you that.
What can it achieve? What do you feel you have you achieved using it? For example, have you - made someone fall in love with you, altered the weather, combated illness?
Originally posted by network dude
I'll be honest, I believe in things that are tangible. I do not discount things I cannot see or touch, but I am skeptical and would need some serious proof to believe. I don't know much about the Chaos magick or any other type other than the traditional "magician's illusions or slight of hand". I may be massively misunderstanding it's context, and that is what this thread is about. In many secret societies there is a mystical part that takes a whole lot of faith to believe.
I remember talking to a Rosicrucian and being told that they felt the same way until something happened that changed their minds. (and scared the crap out of them) I didn't get into the details of what that was but took it for what it was. I see members of OTO discussing this topic with some knowledge.
I heard all about how a Ouija board could summon demons, and while I don't believe in them, I sure wouldn't want to find out how wrong I was that way, so I don't mess with them. That may be a bit hypocritical, but I don't see it that way. I see it as not poking the rabid badger with a sharp stick to see how pissed off I can make it.
So I would be very interested in hearing interpretations of what Magick is, and what you might be able to gain by using it.
And please, if it's something you obligated yourself not to discuss with the uninitiated, please say that so I will not pry where I shouldn't be prying.