Originally posted by Hillarie
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I would love him a whole lot more if there was no hell. The thought of hell gets in my way because I can't understand why I should love someone that
Why can't he just annihilate people he doesn't like instead of torturing them forever? Really. I don't get it.
edit on 31-3-2013 by Hillarie
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Lection 90 - Gospel of the Nazarines (The Holy Twelve)
11. Whoso keepeth the holy Law which I have given, the same shall save their souls, however differently they may see the truths which I have given.
Light reveals what it hits, but the light never changes. It searches the heart.
I agree that hell is not a good thought. I especially do not like the thought of hell given the fact that our education is so poor. For me, the main
clue to this is held in a few facts. First, Christ has the keys to hell and death. Second, the word also says this:
1 John 2:2 (ESV)
2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
God is Love. Then this is true:
1 Corinthians 13
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is
not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts,
always hopes, always perseveres.
Love keeps no record of wrongs, but love is also a two way street. I think the key is seeing our own sins and having a repentant heart, otherwise, we
do not reflect what it takes to receive God's love. Of course, we must recognize God in all of this and the reason we must regret sin. An arrogant
and prideful heart can only see itself above others. Love requires that we do not take this position. Sadly, there are many people in this world
today that live for themselves. We are all selfish. There is no doubt, but we all have access to this knowledge as well.
And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
ALL sin can be forgiven apart from one. Not believing is the one sin. Again, I simply return to my original comment that we lack a good education.
I grew up in a home that showed me this. Many, possibly most, do not have this same programming. We are basically blank computers when we are born,
accepting the programming we receive. What makes the difference from God's perspective? You must be born again. You will live another day after you
die. Our faith is in God's hands and he prepares us.
65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
And again, Jesus knows our hearts already:
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name.[d] 24 But Jesus would
not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
"This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their
Remember, there is a plan. 1000 years of rest is accounted for those who believe now.
20 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that
ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to
keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their
testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their
foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand
years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power
over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
I assume that the ones that do not come to life until the 1000 years are finished will be set right by the ones who do live 1000 years. God has a
plan that goes beyond our one life today.
It's true that we light the fire we burn by. We also have the choice to use that light as a guide on the path for others. It's always been our
choice and we will be ranked from first to last in heaven. The robe (Body) you get later is the body you design now. The Shepherd pulls the wool
over our eyes so he can sheer the rest off. The wool is our sin and make our next robe (Body). We have a hand in this. You must be born again.
Don't place your bet on hell if God has anything to do with your upbringing as a child. Adoption into his family only requires our faith and belief.
God develops that faith and a faith as small as a mustard seed is all he needs.
Hell is what you create by choices. So too is heaven.
What did Confucius say on the topic of education? "I hear and I forget. I see and I learn. I do and I understand."
God's Instructional Design
In the end, do we need any word to know that we should love others? It's already written on our hearts.
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