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Originally posted by poet1b
Democracy is a terrible choice, until one considers the alternatives.
The solution is shut down immigration, and start deporting the radicals as quickly as possible. Create laws that prevent this process, but insuring the rights of their women, and the freedom of their women.
So what now, can one make the argument that it is acceptable for Jews to deceive non-Jews... and thereby label all Jews as deceptive?
But you haven't established why you think its acceptable for Muslims to deceive non-Muslims. Sounds like you are speaking from a personal bias / opinion... like as if Muslims are inherently more prone to deceiving others.
Those Rabbi based laws are not followed by all Jews, just as not all Muslims treat their women like property.
It isn't that hard to figure out if someone is a phony. That they can not be trusted.
Only that if Muslims move to Western nations, then they must respect their women, and ours
in the way our culture and laws demand.
I'm not going to locate the parts Koran that talk about how to treat non-Muslims.
In Muslim nations, it is illegal for her to go out in such a manner, and if she is raped, she gets punished and the rapists do not, or they get a slap on the hand.
Originally posted by daryllyn
This is going to sound harsh, and it might not be a popular opinion, but, I will stand by it:
Want sharia law? Go back to where you came from.
This is America.
You don't get to barge in here and start making demands and you certainly aren't 'above the law'.
Disclaimer: I am not a fan of any organized religion, just for the record and so no one thinks I am only picking on Islam.edit on 27-3-2013 by daryllyn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by poet1b
Can you name another form of government that is superior to a democratic/republican/representative style of government?
Democracy doesn't work in the military, but that is the only circumstance I can think of.
Why does belief have to make one rigid?
characterized by or given to the expression of opinions very strongly or positively as if they were facts
Where did I say the west should go to Muslim countries and dictate how they treat their women?
The solution is shut down immigration, and start deporting the radicals as quickly as possible. Create laws that prevent this process, but insuring the rights of their women, and the freedom of their women
Only that if Muslims move to Western nations, then they must respect their women, and ours in the way our culture and laws demand.
Islam considers a woman's word to be worth half of a mans. You could offer a better argument if you admitted the truth about many Islamic practices.
A woman should be limited to going outside her house once or twice a month, as necessary, since a woman has no beauty except by sitting in the corner of her house.
The mind of woman is not suited to be taught, but only to words of nonsense.
A woman’s “wisdom is only in the spindle.”
Words of Torah should be burned rather than being given to women.
All her conversation is nothing but words of adultery.
Every woman washes her husband’s face and feet and pours him a cup and prepares his bed and stands and serves her husband. And any woman who refrains from doing any of these tasks that she is obligated to perform - is forced to do them.
She is a sack full of excrement with a bleeding hole.
The Muslims living a non-Muslim country, even if they originally entered that country by means of forged documents, are considered to be living in their adopted country under a covenant. They must, therefore, comply with the laws of their country of residence without, at the same time, disobeying Islamic Law.
Scholars have stated that those who enter non-Muslim countries have to adhere to their respective laws and regulations even if they entered those countries illegally, and they have no excuse for breaking those laws, since they were entrusted to abide by those laws upon entry into those countries.
Muslims living in non-Muslim countries have to comply with laws and regulations of the country they have been entrusted though valid visas to enter. At the same time, they have to avoid whatever contradicts Islamic teachings. In case they are obliged by law to uphold something contrary to Islamic teachings, they have to adhere to the minimum that the law requires of them.