Why many American people dislike Obama as a president?

Everything he does and says is pitting side vs. side. Divides then throws rocks to start the fight. Then backs out to blame the sides for their disgusting behavior. Then goes golfing with a smile.

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Today the modern slaves are held prisoner by their belief in compound interest; that they owe money that never existed to repay money created out of thin air.
Realize that private central banking is just another illusion created by the enslavers to trick you into obedient servitude.
More money is owed to the bankers than actually exists, because of the interest charged on the loan that created the money, the debt-slavery is permanent!
No matter how hard you work, no matter how much you sacrifice, the debt can never be paid off.
The system is intentionally designed to trap the nation's population permantly in unpayable debt, to make them slaves to that debt and to the bankers.

This is the purpose behind the design of the Federal Reserve.

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Aye, I know as someone who spent a whole lot of time in the corporate world and also as someone who fell through those proverbial cracks. I was hoping that I'd make it to see 2014 happen when I could become insured again without fear of them dredging up preexisting condition clauses. I don't know if that will be too late now and know that, if it isn't, I'm going to have a whole lot debt to pay for my continued existence. Then again, that all depends on what this very expensive specialist has to say. Not kidding that I'm being charged hundreds to just make an appointment. The problem is neurological and signs of brain trauma--any bets on what my end bill will be? lol...

What's to like about any of them? What ever changes for the better no matter who is in office? On many levels, they are all the same faction...Repubs, Demos....it's all a game. Meant to keep us in the "divide and conquer" mode. All these executive orders and signing statements and such...what a farce. Our votes count? The Congress/Senator critters are irrelavant nowadays when presidents can bypass everything and do what they want. They all make promises that don't come to fruition most times. They all promise to do away with "big" govt. yet it keeps getting bigger...TSA, DHS, and more. War is hell yet more war occurrs like an evil magic thing.

It has been a long time since any of us has felt safer and happier and more secure in our person. We are pulled over for roadside checks, have to wear seat belts, helmets on motorcycles, smoking forbidden in places, light bulbs forbidden soon except those mercury ones, vaccines will probably become mandatory. Militarized police. Cameras all over the place. They ALL try and get away with as much as possible during their term. What's to like about any of them. Electronic voting machines...do we really vote any of these fools in anymore? Are they elected or selected.

They all spend for extravagant vacations while us peons struggle to live from pay check to pay check. They pretend to be different and disagree yet all things considered, things either stay the same or get worse.

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Well...if you are talking about Moore's documentary I don't remember if anyone was turned away. You are correct though that a good number of people who had health insurance and then had cancer or something very costly, they can end up losing there houses or declaring bankruptcy. Which in my estimation and one of a very small subset of things that I would ever agree w/Michael Moore is that this is the fault of Insurance companies. I pay roughly 5% of my net pay in health insurance. And with my crappy plan, I have a 2k per year deductible and then the plan only pays 90/10.

I don't know, as I am not a lawyer, but it could be differences from State to State, so good point. I know I have never heard of anyone being refused services but I am not in the medical industry, my ex-wife was which is where I got my information, so my knowledge are based in anecdotal or third person experiences So doing a google search I found this by someone claiming to be an attorney www.avvo.com... :

Yes, a hospital may refuse to perform a test if an individual does not have the means to pay. Hospitals are required to "stabilize" an individual in an emergency situation regardless of ability to pay, but are not required to provide testing on an elective basis for those who cannot pay for them and may require the entire cost of the test up front.

So I guess it is all up to the doctor whether it is an emergency or not.

Originally posted by Cabin
what are the reasons behind many Americans disliking him?

Because he sucks.

1 - He lies and lies and lies.
2 - He tries to circumvent the US Constitution .. power grabbing.
3 - His 'steal from the productive and give to the unproductive' $$ redistribution scheme.
4 - Obamacare ... forcing Americans to buy a product ... he's in bed with big pharma.
5 - Mr. "no lobbiest will find a job in my White House' has ooodles of lobbiests in the White House.
6 - 20+ years at the blame-the-white-man-for-everything-wrong black liberation theology cult in Chicago. He's a racist.
7 - Bailouts of corporations 'too big to fail'. He shares this with Bush43.
8 - Military interventions in countries we have no business in (Libya, Syria). He shares this with Bush43.
9 - Failed stimulus .. and wanting to go back for more 'stimulus'. He shares this with Bush43
10 - He sends 250 Billion to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt .. but then says that there can't be White House tours for Americans because we don't have enough money. (which is obviously B.S.)
11 - He's a typical tax and spend liberal. And during a major recession that doesn't work.
12 - He isn't qualified to be commander in chief of our armed forces. he simply isn't.
13 - He claims to want to 'work with' republicans but then he makes snide comments about them and literally calls them 'the enemy' at speeches.
14 - Neglecting the federal reserve.
15 - Not attending his security briefings.
16 - Bengahzi-gate. He tried to blame a youtube video instead of on Muslim fanatical violence.
17 - Fort Hood shooting. He tried to blame 'workplace violence' instead of Muslim fanatical violence.
18 - He pushed cap-and-trade climate-change legislation.
19 - His war on the Catholic Church - requirement that insurance companies offer birth-control coverage. Which shows his extreme lack of understanding of the US Constitution.
20 - Allows 4 countries to continue receiving US military aid even though they use child soldiers
21 - Predator drones on US citizens here in the USA? His responses are sneaky ...
22 - Continued backing of Eric Holder .. who is racist and incompetent.
23 - That whole gun running into Mexico and dead border agents thing ...
24 - He says ACTA could be ratified without Congressional approval and that it would override US law
25 - "Mr. Transparency" refused to declassify a secret memo regarding the president’s power for warrantless spying.
26 - "Mr. Transparency" tried to block a ruling that White House visitor logs had to be released to the public
27 - "Mr. Transparency" met with lobbiests off White House grounds so they wouldn't sign into the vistor log and so that he could keep the visits of lobbiests secret.
28 - Supports the TSA and their grope fest.
29 - Interjected himself into the George Zimmerman situation, using his position in the Oval Office, to sway the American opinion. He can't keep out of these things .. making stupid comments ... like with the Boston situation that lead to that pathetic 'beer summit'. And he always blames the non-black person.
30 - Wants an 'internet ID' for all Americans. That should scare everyone!
31 - ALL the broken promises .. and there are a lot.
32 - Promised to reduce the deficit but he will have actually tripled it before he's done.
33 - Appointed tax dodger Timothy Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary.
34 - "Mr. Transparency" blocked the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests regarding ties with Monsanto.
35 - Obama broke promises he made many times that families making less than $250,000 a year would not see “any form of tax increase".
36 - Obama pandered to seniors to get votes and promised them he'd end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000 a year. He broke this pandering promise.
37 - He sued Arizona over their security measures to keep illegals out of their state. Their state takes a huge financial toll because of illegals. But Obama is sueing them to try to make it easier for illegals.
38 - "Mr. Hope and Change" and all his appointments of CAMPAIGN BUNDLERS AND DONORS to top positions around the world.
39 - His choice of VP Biden .. who calls Tea Party Americans 'Terrorists".
40 - All of Obama's self messianic language.

Originally posted by MrSpad
Most who dislike him do so simply out of party politics. Then you have the crazy people. While Obama is far from perfect he has done an adept job.

OMG .. that was hysterical!
Dude .. pointing out the obvious .. that Obama is just as bad as most other politicians ...
doesn't make someone 'partisan' or 'crazy'. It just means that people are awake enough
to see the severe problems that come with Obama being in the White House.

218 reasons not to vote for Obama

Reasons I don't "like" Obama
1) The deficit (2008-2016 projected)
www.econdataus.com...
2) The large increase in spending on disability benefits, foodstamps, welfare benefits, etc.
www.ncpa.org...
m.washingtontimes.com...
3) The Fast & Furious gun-walking scandal (2 of the few issues I have re:this is Obama's lack of leadership in the aftermath, & his continued support of Holder)
www.cnn.com...
www.realclearpolitics.com...

Thanks for reminding me about the lobbyist "promise"; there were many given jobs in his administration.
www.politico.com...

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Let me first say, in my humble Canadian opinion, Obama is the worst president possibly since Nixon.

That said, i love little lists like this one:

1.NDAA
2.Gun Control
3.Obamacare
4.Not upholding the US Constitution
5.Too many vacations
6.Sneaky
7.Whiner
8.THE ECONOMY
9.DHS
10.TSA
11.EPA
12.And his wife is ugly.

Where to start

#1, obama totally did that.
#2. What gun control measures did Obama pass? none
#3. The current version of "obamacare" is a scam, but the original single payer system, similar to my system here in socialist canada, would have been a godsend to everyone in your country, can't blame Obama for that, gotta blame the republicans who have socialized medicare for convincing the rest of you peons it's a bad thing.
#4. I suppose the previous government did? Geesus, how fast we forget about the domestic spying, and "enemy combatant" designations, years before Obama got into office.
#5. That's valid, how about the previous government? Hah, exactly.
#6. You have to quantify a statement like that, how exactly is he "sneaky" he's a politician, of course he's sneaky.
#7. Whiner? I think you added that in by mistake, he's not whining about anything, but people like you are
#8. Yeah, that's right, the economy was in great standing before Obama took office.
#9. Bush created the DHS
#10. Bush created the TSA
#11. The epa? Really? That's been around since what, the 70s? Jesus, learn about your government, please
#12. And with this one you've proven that none of your complaints matter, you just dislike him.

It's hilarious, plenty of things to trash Obama for, yet, the name of the game is to blame him for everything, hell, maybe he did 911

don't like daylight savings time? Obama
Stubbed your toe getting out of bed? Obama
Didn't win the lotter? Obama

HE's a bad president, failed to follow through on just about every single campaign promise, continues to support Israel (while also throwing them under a bus, so i'm told) took a peace prize while drone bombing kids, extended the horrible bush policies, didn't end the wars......

So many valid complaints, i don't get why everyone has to invent stuff.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by ohioriver

 

Let me first say, in my humble Canadian opinion, Obama is the worst president possibly since Nixon.

That said, i love little lists like this one:

1.NDAA
2.Gun Control
3.Obamacare
4.Not upholding the US Constitution
5.Too many vacations
6.Sneaky
7.Whiner
8.THE ECONOMY
9.DHS
10.TSA
11.EPA
12.And his wife is ugly.

Where to start

#1, obama totally did that.
#2. What gun control measures did Obama pass? none
#3. The current version of "obamacare" is a scam, but the original single payer system, similar to my system here in socialist canada, would have been a godsend to everyone in your country, can't blame Obama for that, gotta blame the republicans who have socialized medicare for convincing the rest of you peons it's a bad thing.
#4. I suppose the previous government did? Geesus, how fast we forget about the domestic spying, and "enemy combatant" designations, years before Obama got into office.
#5. That's valid, how about the previous government? Hah, exactly.
#6. You have to quantify a statement like that, how exactly is he "sneaky" he's a politician, of course he's sneaky.
#7. Whiner? I think you added that in by mistake, he's not whining about anything, but people like you are
#8. Yeah, that's right, the economy was in great standing before Obama took office.
#9. Bush created the DHS
#10. Bush created the TSA
#11. The epa? Really? That's been around since what, the 70s? Jesus, learn about your government, please
#12. And with this one you've proven that none of your complaints matter, you just dislike him.

It's hilarious, plenty of things to trash Obama for, yet, the name of the game is to blame him for everything, hell, maybe he did 911

don't like daylight savings time? Obama
Stubbed your toe getting out of bed? Obama
Didn't win the lotter? Obama

HE's a bad president, failed to follow through on just about every single campaign promise, continues to support Israel (while also throwing them under a bus, so i'm told) took a peace prize while drone bombing kids, extended the horrible bush policies, didn't end the wars......

So many valid complaints, i don't get why everyone has to invent stuff.

OK Here are my answers.

1. Yep He did it
2.The fact that he is drooling over gun control AND he signed 23 executive orders on it.
3.There has always been sliding pay scale in clinics where I am. I pay 20 for an office visit and now Obumblecare will take that away, force me into some crappy plan were not very much will be covered. That was deliberately left out of the debate on Obamacare. There was already help for low income people.
4.Obama could have reined it in but CHOSE not to.
5.A vacation every month.
6.Open mike where he told the Russian it would have to wait until after he was re-elected.
7.Yes. He whines and gets hateful when he is given his way.
8.The economy wasn't the best,but look at it now.
9.He can rein it in.
10.He has the position to fix it.
11. He is the President.He has the authority to fix it.
12.Of course I dislike him. He is the worst president we have ever had! And his wife is still ugly.

he's a puppet who reads a teleprompter

reply to post by Cabin


I disagree with his policies, his choice of department heads, and he is taking the country in the wrong direction.

Originally posted by sam_inc
he's a puppet who reads a teleprompter

Pretty much. As creepy as the entire video is in some ways, I thought that the puppet master/Bush/Obama scene was brilliant executed because they really aren't all that different. I love the fact that the rings on the puppeteer's fingers are a bleeding heart (index finger--rules by appealing to bleeding hearts)and the almighty dollar sign on the ring finger (married to money? capitalism?). Your remark totally reminded me of it, lol: youtu.be...

They are all close. The recently released hacked Bush family emails were a major indicator of how the two party dividing line is just for public show and that's why I'd like to see the parties themselves lose power.

Bottom line is Obama is to divisive constantly with other peoples opinions and is not a good people person.

Originally posted by Cabin
As far as I have seen his actions/decisions, from an European viewpoint with no first-hand experience under his reign, I see him as one of the best presidents USA has had in a while.

This thread is not made to explain my reasons for liking that president, I am simply interested, what are the reasons behind many Americans disliking him?

Let us please leave out conspiracies, which have not much back-up behind them, simply reasons why your dislike (or maybe even like) him as a president based on his public actions, decisions etc.

Thanks

edit on 27-3-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)

I'm no fan of Obama - I truly believe he sold out. However, he is a great improvement over other recent presidents in terms of intelligence, dignity and style.

I truly believe, whatever any one says - it's racisim pure and simple. Or rather - not so simple anymore. US bigots have gotten more savvy and it is more classist these days. Whatever it's called it come down to good ole USA racism.

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1) He clearly has no respect for our Constitution, our traditions, the policies and values that lay at the foundation of our nation and what made it successful.
2) He pursues policies that have been proven to be disastrous elewhere (Europe)
3) He has seized the power to nationalize private industry and business during peacetime (EO 16303). Sycophantic justifications aside, the language of the order puts in no uncertain terms that the executive has given itself more authoritarian power than ever was seized by any previous President.
4) He promotes the redistribution of wealth - which is nothing more than armed robbery on a massive scale.
5) He supports turning otherwise self sufficient Americans into government dependents, ie subjects rather than citizens.
6) While creating a dependent class, he simultaneous recklessly spends the public treasury and creates a massive debt which has destroyed all nations/societies that have done the same thing in the past.
7) He would like to take away individuals' right to protect their own lives, the lives of their family, and their property. All while having large groups of heavily armed men protect his family and the families of other rich elites.
8) He pretends to be peaceful while deploying US armed forces into many nations, largely using drones which remotely kill scores of innocents.
9)His "affordable care act" is already creating massive tax hikes and creating hugely higher premium costs for Health Care. It will eviscerate the middle class.
10) He is an arrogant buffoon who claims to be intelligent but cannot even make a speech to elementary school kids without a teleprompter and a speechwriter.
11) He is cutting pay for soldiers and destroying their promised benefits while creating programs to raise benefits for illegal aliens.
12) In his time as President, he has supported a Federal Reserve policy of destroying the value of the US Dollar, the only thing saving it from collapse so far is the weakness of the soon to be defunct Euro. This "quantitative easing" is very harmful to the working poor and the middle class while enhancing the wealth of his elite buddies.
13) He is raising a fullscale militarized domestic secret police force to be used against dissident citizenry. If that is not his aim, he has yet to explain why the massive escalation in the DHS.

And that is just off the top of my head.

I'm no fan of Obama - I truly believe he sold out. However, he is a great improvement over other recent presidents in terms of intelligence, dignity and style.

I truly believe, whatever any one says - it's racisim pure and simple. Or rather - not so simple anymore. US bigots have gotten more savvy and it is more classist these days. Whatever it's called it come down to good ole USA racism.

I despise his white half equally to his black.
The above belief is a great way for elites to influence small minds, though. It is effective. You control their little brains while making them feel all warm ,bubbly, and just. All while getting them to do your bidding and attacking their enemies as bigots.
The racism card was used up a while ago. Pure pathetic silliness.

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he's a socialist. he's a socialist. he's a crypto-Marxist.

Being from Europe, you may not understand that. He is diametrically opposed to what 30-40% of what the people of the US believe in. and no, he doesn't get a 60% pick up out of that. About 30% support socialism. The rest couldn't tell you what socialism is.

He doesn't believe in Americanism. As an EU you may like that, but the leader of your own country should at least support that country.

Doesn't believe in free market independence. You may not have heard it overseas, but when the Pres of the "free world" tells small business owners and entrepreneurs "they didn't build" what they have, that is quite an insult.

When BHO took over, the debt was 8Trillion after decades of stupidity. BHO doubled it in four years. this is absolutely unsustainable. the US is now insolvent. Coincidentally matching the far left Clowerd-Piven plan to destroy the US through bankruptcy. The world would dump our bonds if they had a way to, which they are working on.

Free cell phones?! Entitlements were meant to keep people from starving in the streets. Now they're just giving crap away to buy votes. Except we're broke now. just wait until the checks stop coming. Greece will look like toddlers throwing a tantrum.

Supports crony-capitalism. rhetoric aside, BHO has handed out trillions to the very big banks and big corps that he and his party's base hate, and the real American right don't like either

Obama and his party trashed bush and the right over wars, and civil rights. In office BHO has signed laws ten times worse then anything proposed by bush. NDAA-the right to INDEFINITE detention of citizens without trial. Executive Orders giving the gov the legal authority to seize all private property in times of emergency. Unlimited authority to the NSA to record all emails and record cell(mobile) phone traffic. built in backdoors in Microsoft, google and facebook?

Approved TSA and DHS expansion. 2 BILLION rounds of ammo and 2700 armored vehicles? They are the equivalent of an unaccountable federally controlled internal security force completely outside of local law enforcement or oversight.

The use of drones have literally exploded under BHO. The US has expanded to number of wars and military actions since bush, not reduced them. now they want to use them here?

Government healthcare. you either want it or you hate it. bear in mind the laws creating it are rigged to destroy any competing private insurance systems, while at the same time dumping tons of money onto a handful of connected crony companies

SEC, EPA and FDA are revolving doors to the very corporations they are supposed to be regulating. people in the US distrust to outright hate GMO's, but BHO and his party just gave blanket immunity to Monsanto for any damage they be causing. Crony friends protect their own while using gov regulations to cripple competitors.

US second amendment. either hate it or believe it is a foundational principle that will never be peaceably surrendered.

BHO is a globalist. This is America. Nothing global about it except how the elites con us into fighting their wars for them.

BHO is a common and petty little man. He has no idea how to be presidential. He bows to foreign leaders. He insults allies. He takes offense at perceived slights. He is vindictive. He is good at pretending to be intellectual, but from his actions, unscripted comments, and insider leaks, he is vacuous and detached.

At a time of great economic upheaval, BHO has, literally, taken more vacations then any president in history. Lavish parties. Top name celebrities. Between he and his wife, one historical example leaps to mind that symbolizes their entire attitude- "let them eat cake"

BHO. historically, a great president....if you are from the EU, Russia, China, or the muslim brotherhood. worse president in AMERICAN history.

Originally posted by Cabin
one of the best presidents USA has had in a while.

Because that isn't saying much!

Originally posted by Cabin
Please guys, give at least some arguments, why do you think so?

HE LIE.