posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:10 AM
Other statements of interest:
STATEMENT OF SUSAN LIPMAN, Safeway store clerk
"He, he acted (minutes before the shooting), you know, he appeared to be either be drunk or drugs or, you know what I mean, he was just
This was just before the shooting. I doubt any real gunman would have been 'listless' seconds before his act of mass murder.
This is an interesting but heavily redacted interview. He seems to have known Loughner in some kind of institutional setting. Is he talking about
jail, or a mental hospital?
STATEMENT OF GLEN GILKERSON, witness
Q: ....you believe that you know or have known, um, the person that has been arrested for the shooting that occurred ... at the Safeway parking
A: I think so. ...Does he go by the name of Jay?
Q: That I do not know. Um, tell us how, how you think you know him.
A: Here's the deal you guys. Uh (two redacted lines) ... And he was there both times. And the second time was at (redacted line). ....
Q: Um, why do you think this is the same person that you were in (redacted) with?
A: Uh, from the one photograph on TV with a white t-shirt, it sure looks like him. ...I would just about be sure.
Q: Okay. And you said you may have seen him in some sort of (redacted). When was the first? ....
A: Okay. Uh, I'll just be totally honest with you guys. Obviously, uh, (redacted lines).
Q: And, and I think he was there. ....
A: Okay. Then more recent than that, it wasn't this last August but the August before, (redacted line). ... And, uh, um, the guy was a real
narcissist. He talked about, uh, serving, uh, how many people killed, blah, blah, blah and.
Q: Serving in the military?
A: Yeah ... An, uh, here's what got my, one of the things that got my attention, was that, uh, I was there, like I said, like about ten days and
he goes, I remember you and I said, yeah, I kind of remember you. And then he was dismissed, and I was still there. And then within like two or
three days, boom, he was back again. ...
Q: Do you know what he was there for?
A: No, I don't.
This witness noticed Loughner with cab driver guy days before the shooting. Was he Loughner's handler?
STATEMENT OF CLAUDIA CHENIER-CZARNECKI, witness
On Tuesday, Jan 4th, five days before the shooting, while on break from her job at a Walmart in Oro Valley(near Tucson), she was approached by who she
was sure was Jared Loughner--"100 percent. Not a doubt in my mind." His hair was long and curly, dark brown. Loughner talked to her about
enlisting in the service. He was anti-government "he was talkin' about us bein' brainwashed."
"The gentleman that has now been identified as the cab driver, I believe came out of our store. .... But he came up this way. And kinda leaned over
to where Jared, he said Jared. .... He said Jared we can''t .... they won't fill it here. .... And they made me believe that it was a
prescription. ... He then, the cab driver then made the comment, we're gonna have to go to Safeway. ..."
Q: What did the, uh, what did the older gentleman look like?
A: He was about my age. ... I'm 57. He had longish hair. Tied back. Um, salt and pepper kind of hair. ...And that the, the older gentleman,
there was more to it than a cab driver. ... He was, too direct. And too much like he was callin' the shots to the, to Jared, the younger kid...
...There was somethin' else there. ... Is what I picked up on. ...And the attitude that came across with him. It was more of a controlling kinda
feeling. ...It seemed like he had some kind of control over Jared. ... And it wasn't in a.. fatherly type manner.
Q: The older guy... seemed to be the person in control?
This concerns that occultic alter photographed in the back of the Loughner home.
STATEMENT OF FATHER, RANDY LOUGHNER
He stated he believed once the media personnel had utilized a pole cam to photograph a Halloween decoration of his .... He proceeded to show
where the skull was at in his backyard again stating that the skull was a Halloween decoration and nothing more.
A Halloween decoration ...in the backyard ... in January?