Climategate Leaker: Our Civilization Is Being Killed By Lying 'Science' Elitists

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No such thing? You sure? How many links do you want? And yes Alex Jones is a con artist. How much of what he peddles actually pans out to be true? Sorry I don't find 'they're hiding alien bases on the moon' a legit reason to deny science.

Originally posted by Kali74
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No such thing? You sure? How many links do you want? And yes Alex Jones is a con artist. How much of what he peddles actually pans out to be true? Sorry I don't find 'they're hiding alien bases on the moon' a legit reason to deny science.

There is NO libertarian socialist party. There are however a)a few socialist parties and b)a libertarian party...right here in america. I take amusement in how people say "I am a libertarian socialist" or "I am a constitutional libertarian"....because they don't know what they are talking about.

Alex Jones never talked about "they are hiding alien bases on the moon". John Lear talks about that and Richard Hoagland HINTS about it.

You are confusing everything and being hateful at the same time. That is not good!

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


I'm being hateful?
Have you read your own posts lately?

Originally posted by Kali74
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I'm being hateful?
Have you read your own posts lately?

So why do you lie about stuff then??

And how could I be hateful? Because I am calling out AGW as a hoax, which it is? It is not just AJ that talks about it, MANY ARE!

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What am I lying about?

Originally posted by grey580
Certainly more gas on the fire of the GW is fake camp.

So the science is in question.
I'd like for someone to look into it and double check the science.

c'mon...you know that all it takes is a couple of scientists out of thousands...to completely disspell any of those loony socialist GW science writers.
all of our science should be corporate and religous based, to have any gravitas. any other study is done by communists who want to destroy capitalism

Originally posted by Kali74
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What am I lying about?

Lying about global warming being man made, lying about AJ being a scamming moron.

I will concede however that I mistook what you were trying to imply with libertarian socialism as a party rather than political ideology. However many folks, including myself, believe the term is an oxymoron because libertarianism is usually for small government whereas socialism is usually for big government. You can't have a mixed economy or full public economy without the government acting as proxy for the people. Sure on a small scale it COULD WORK, but large scale no way. It is utopian nonsense!

I have nothing against you on a personal level. Sometimes you make good posts and threads, but in this thread you are wrong, and I am entitled my opinion just like anyone else.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


Lying about global warming being man made,

Yep, and you know what is so obvious, its acutally hilarious....
They do not want to talk about "The Game"

"The Game" book, that teaches all of the propaganda tricks used
by the AGW fanatics to brainwash the puplic.



They wont touch that, as there is NO defense in the need for such
crap if AGW had even a small portion of truth to it.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

and I am entitled my opinion just like anyone else.

and I'm entitled to mine without being a called a liar.

Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe

Originally posted by steven2977
Global warming is the biggest fraud since social security.
Its an excuse for taxes that would fund a military for the globalist agenda.

You have absolutely no idea on the science of climate change do you.

It is actually the AGW climate " sciencitsts" that have no idea....

But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted.

Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models' range within a few years.

"The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations," says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.

www.theaustralian.com.au...

"If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global
observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change," he says

Originally posted by MysticStrummer
The only way to come up with the "no warming in 15 years" conclusion is to ignore the oceans, which make up 2/3 of the planet and retain 90% of it's heat.

Are you up to speed with the current data? Were you aware that a few "ministers" of propaganda
have been caught changing the data, to once again fake the temps to prop up a dead horse?

It has been demonstrated that the work of a group of climate scientists attempting to
resurrect the fake hockey stick is even more fraudulent.

It seems that in order to recreate the illusion of warming in the past four hundred years,
the scientists, led by geologist Shaun Marcott, changed the dates
on a series of ocean cores in order to get
the results they wanted.

McIntyre found that Marcott and his colleagues used previously published ocean core data, but have altered the dates represented by the cores, in some cases by as much as 1,000 years. climateaudit.org...

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What bothers me is that people pick sides and jump to conclusions without really examining anything. Everyone is acting like liberal or conservative sheep. Either you are for the A package or for the B package. I take time to write good posts and get 0,1,2 stars, some idiot writes mainstream garbage and gets 5 stars. ATS has been going downhill continously for years!

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True, I wonder if there are propagandists amoung us...
Its very possible, as this is one of those conspriacies that has
far reaching tentacles.

If global warming is a hoax, which I believe it is and the true science
and unskewed data backs that up, it destroys several current science projects.

Global warming being a hoax, there is no need to geoengineer the planet to
counter its (non existent) effects. It destroys the need for carbon taxes. (which have
already been implemented in many ways)

Like a house of cards, it has been carefully stacked, and it would be easily taken
down if not gaurded, so it stands to reason there is a dispatch to watch over
public opinion....

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


What makes you think people don't look at all sides?
Coming to a different opinion than you have, does not mean a person has not looked at everything, it only means they formed a different opinion. Disagreeing with someone is also not lying.

Originally posted by Kali74
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What makes you think people don't look at all sides?
Coming to a different opinion than you have, does not mean a person has not looked at everything, it only means they formed a different opinion. Disagreeing with someone is also not lying.

I wasn't really talking about you. I have noticed the trend of political hacks for years now and it became more apparent since all the school shootings and democrats trying hard as hell to ban as many guns as they can as fast as they can.

Meanwhile conservatives tend to only care about guns and give wall street corruption a free pass.

If you don't think america is polarised then you are not paying attention. Look at the vote count. All the third parties combined got less than 2% this past election, which to be honest is much better than the 1% they normally get. With this mindset america is screwed! I would take gary johnson and jim gray over obama/biden and romney/ryan anytime eventhough I don't quite agree with their platform. I am more for constitutional party or green party.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


I didn't say you were talking about me, but did you accuse me of lying and not knowing 'facts'. You're very quick to assume and to condemn anyone that doesn't agree with you with things like mainstream and shill blah blah blah. That lead to me to inquire why you thought people don't learn about all sides of an issue.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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Carbon Dioxide is necessary for the photosynthesis process of plants. The more CO2 the more plants prosper. Yes deforestation is becoming a big problem and the cause of that is over-population and their demands for comfortable living. Capitalism creates the greed factor of everyone wanting to live a materialistic life. We need to move beyond materialism and more into spiritualism. I believe in a mixed economy and birth control. The under-developed nations have been kept back intentionally it seems in terms of education and technology which leads them to reproduce like rabbits. When sex is the only "entertainment" then that is what folks do.

We need more forest land and less development of the wild. Leave some wild alone. We desperately need space travel and to colonise other planets. I keep asking myself why we are stuck on this rock 50 years after landing on the moon and I can't come up with any sane explanation. There must be interference somewhere!

Your CO2 idea is correct and initially, with increased CO2 in the atmosphere, there would be a rise in plant production, but the increase in CO2 has the additional effect of increasing temp as it forms the blanket around the earth (acting like a greenhouse) would you agree or disagree?

so you're admitting that deforrestation is caused by overpopulation. By what? kangaroos? me thinks you "are" referring to humans and in doing so, would that mean, that since around a third of global oxygen is produced by rain forests that humans are contributing to the destruction of the natural environment and by extension, contributing to global warming. If so, aren't youcontradicting your own stand on this that humans aren't responsible for global warming?

Originally posted by Kali74
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I didn't say you were talking about me, but did you accuse me of lying and not knowing 'facts'. You're very quick to assume and to condemn anyone that doesn't agree with you with things like mainstream and shill blah blah blah. That lead to me to inquire why you thought people don't learn about all sides of an issue.

So why don't you learn more about alex jones before accussing him of being a moronic scammer? I have met few people who have actually listened to him thoroughly enough then come and make such accusations. I don't agree with everything he says, but more often than not, he is correct.

The link you provided was not that honest, or let me put it this way since you take offense so easily, it was biased!

And I have been here long enough to know enough about AGW to be relatively certain that in fact it is a scam. This isn't a new topic at all. Its been discussed numerous times already. I am sorry we disagree, but we can't agree on everything anyway.

Thanks for your inquiry!

Originally posted by greatfriendbadfoe

Your CO2 idea is correct and initially, with increased CO2 in the atmosphere, there would be a rise in plant production, but the increase in CO2 has the additional effect of increasing temp as it forms the blanket around the earth (acting like a greenhouse) would you agree or disagree?

And CO2 is the only greenhouse gas? If not, then why is the world government ONLY concerned about CO2? Taxing big oil would not solve anything because they have a monopoly already and will pass the taxes straight down to the consumer.

so you're admitting that deforrestation is caused by overpopulation. By what? kangaroos? me thinks you "are" referring to humans and in doing so, would that mean, that since around a third of global oxygen is produced by rain forests that humans are contributing to the destruction of the natural environment and by extension, contributing to global warming. If so, aren't youcontradicting your own stand on this that humans aren't responsible for global warming?

So why don't we tax loggers then? Why tax the oil companies more when they don't pay their fair share of corporate taxes to begin with? Its like the gun laws that don't work so lets make more gun laws. Nonsense!

Humans contribute to global warming but to what extent remains uncertain imo. What the heck was your point anyway? No I am not contradicting myself.

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Again. You're assuming I know nothing about Alex Jones because I think he's a scam artist.