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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by masta12d
paint a portrait of what our world really looks like without all these filters?


Without our "fliters" the world would be blindingly white with a deafening white noise soundtrack.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by straddlebug
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What if time is really a static state - does not flow. There is not future, past, or present.


This is exactly how I view time. Or at least the universe.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by ObservingTheWorld

What if time is really a static state - does not flow. There is not future, past, or present.


This is exactly how I view time. Or at least the universe.

 

You don't think time is moving?

You are not getting older, or tired, or hungry......?

?



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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One form changes to another form and this change is witnessed by conciousness. This is what we call time. All forms are constantly changing but the conciousness that sees this is not a form and remains constant always and is therefore outside of time but without which there could be no such thing as time.

your name says it all.
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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by masta12d
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I couldn't resist the fire hydrant comment. Got a great chuckle. Thanks for that.

I was talking with a friend and although he too was resistant in wanting to engage in the "what ifs", i pressed him further.

I offered the idea of: what if we were of course born with these abilities? But instead of 2 eyes you had multiple receptors. He suggested a way to filter in and out more naturally so we settled on that with blinking as the trigger.

Besides, what's wrong with a little drink from a fire hydrant now and then?


The NSA is presently buried under a mountain of useless data as a result of its Spy Gate program. It's useless because it's literally impossible for anyone to filter out what's important from the piles and piles and piles of crap that their bots grab and store. If that system was a human brain, it'd be completely frozen in place and incapable of further processing. The filters that they devised were still no match for the constant barrage of data that the system inhaled from second to second to second. In short, they blew it and they blew it magnificently.

Filters allow for "weighting" of data sets, and without that weighting as part of any data process system, then a cough becomes as important as a gun shot. A smile becomes the same as a weapon being raised against you. Without any filters at all, your brain/mind survival system is completely worthless.

If you want a really accurate example of a person whose brain is only slightly more "open" to perceiving everything at the same level, check out a profoundly autistic person. That's what it's like for a person who's only slightly more receptive than you are. All incoming stimuli - unfiltered - is like pain for these poor folks. The brain just isn't equipped for wide open access, and short of inventing a new brain, that's what we're stuck with.

Hell, even a computer needs an operating system (a structure of filtering protocols) in order for it to be functional.


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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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We are all blind compared to the mantis shrimp, www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 28 2013 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by Theflyingweldsman

Originally posted by ObservingTheWorld

What if time is really a static state - does not flow. There is not future, past, or present.


This is exactly how I view time. Or at least the universe.

 

You don't think time is moving?

You are not getting older, or tired, or hungry......?

?



aum aum aum

Who says a human being is right linear with time.



posted on Mar, 29 2013 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by straddlebug
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What if time is really a static state - does not flow. There is not future, past, or present.


From Wagner's Parsifal there is a line that goes; "You see, my son, here time turns into space."


This is perhaps one of the more interesting lines of dialogue in Wagner's Parsifal. Occuring in Act 1 of the opera, it is spoken by Gurnemanz, a knight of the holy grail, as Parsifal himself observes that he hardly moves, and yet has already come so far.

Since I encountered the phrase a few years ago, I've been quite intrigued by the idea and all that might be held within that almost aphoristic statement. Perhaps it is the nature of mythology itself which is here being disclosed to us, a time-less realm of mythic archetypes existing in a sort of sacred space. The very idea of a space without time, of a time represented spatially - geometrically - recalls some of the highest human insights, and not merely those of mystics and shamans, who have spoken (in non-scientific terms) of such experiences for millenia.

"It is no longer possible to divide the four-dimensional continuum objectively in intersections that separately contains simultaneous events. The concept of 'now' loses its objective meaning for the spacially extended world. It is in this connection one has to see space and time as an objectively undividable four-dimensional continuum."
-- Albert Einstein: Über die spezielle und die allgemeine Relativitätstheorie

But where, indeed, does time become space? It seems nearly impossible for the human mind to conceive of a space separate from time - indeed, time insidiously winds its way into our existence whether or not we desire it to do so. The arrow of time would seem to establish an inherent entropy of the physical universe which would render it not unlike a timepiece, wound at the beginning of the universe and left to run itself out into eventual dysfunction, decadence, and chaos. Time, the death which lurks spectre-like around the barrier of our perception, bringing to ruin and corrupting the material universe with every passing moment, appears invincible.

There is only one theoretical object in the universe where the reign of time's seeming omnipotence is broken: at the distance from a singularity corresponding to the event horizon of a black hole. The postulated hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy is described by some as the Holy Grail of astrophysics.

Fulvio Melia, an X-ray astronomer at the University of Arizona in Tucson, in reference to the discovery of a supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy - within the constellation Sagittarius - offered these rather revealing comments:

"(The event horizon) separates our Universe from another world.
Some say that when you cross the event horizon,
time becomes space and space becomes time."

... Shades of Parsifal!


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posted on Oct, 8 2023 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: masta12d

The brain is a second intestine women know it and call it intuition... People used to go door to door to see if they wanted the upper intestine pulled out for a mind of perfection carrying a little "purse" as advertising.

It'll come back but it is in what ancients call the phlegm body NOT a brain.

See if you keep the same one it'll try to rule you keep you in duality not caring about the body because you can live with out it up there.



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