Department Of Homeland Security is NOT Stockpiling Ammo

reply to post by tide88


But I thought they used hollow points for practice. You know practice with what they use? and why not 40 cal instead of 9mm.
I'm confused are you saying they carry 40 and train with 9mm. or they carry 40 train with 40 and shoot only JHP or what; Im confused. Or are you saying the 9mm is for their mp5's just to train with and there is some 9mm JHP I havnt found.
OR
Wait the bullets keep popping up.......

reply to post by flyswatter


I don't know what CACs have to do with stockpiling ammo. URSOCLUELESS asked the question, I was offering my assistance to answer it.

reply to post by Feltrick


No credit and no pay...Not much change from military service.

Originally posted by URSOCLUELESS
reply to post by tide88

 

Your not quite right; this is FMJ 9mm. Of couse this is an actual current document. not hearsay. But Im sure in YOUR DHS only JHP are used and the other DHS is just storing this ammo for the MP5s they don't have.

www.fbo.gov...

anyway people do your OWN research and don't listen to this clown. Or do listen, your choice

This video should help with the JHP in question. Go to right around 2:20 minutes to get to the talk about JHP.

Just remember all the talk about disinformation agents...
Just a thought.

reply to post by PutAQuarterIn

"oh yeah your government cares about you" sarcasm

Are you taking a stab at me?

These threads always go to the 'Hey, pot? It's me. Kettle.' place..That's why I was out by page 2.

Honestly, there is a ton of sources out there for either side of this argument so my best guess is that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

The main problem I have with this thread is all of the .gov websites being used to debunk an alleged massive government conspiracy. In the case that the allegations are true, the truth will not be broadcast on their own domains. Just sayin..

But, the government really does care about you.

Originally posted by URSOCLUELESS
reply to post by tide88

 

But I thought they used hollow points for practice. You know practice with what they use? and why not 40 cal instead of 9mm.
I'm confused are you saying they carry 40 and train with 9mm. or they carry 40 train with 40 and shoot only JHP or what; Im confused. Or are you saying the 9mm is for their mp5's just to train with and there is some 9mm JHP I havnt found.
OR
Wait the bullets keep popping up.......

posted video above that explain the use of .40 instead of 9MM

Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by PutAQuarterIn

 

"oh yeah your government cares about you" sarcasm

Are you taking a stab at me?

These threads always go to the 'Hey, pot? It's me. Kettle.' place..That's why I was out by page 2.

Honestly, there is a ton of sources out there for either side of this argument so my best guess is that the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

The main problem I have with this thread is all of the .gov websites being used to debunk an alleged massive government conspiracy. In the case that the allegations are true, the truth will not be broadcast on their own domains. Just sayin..

But, the government really does care about you.

Those alternative sites that say the DHS are stockpiling ammo are using the same .gov sites that I am. They are just picking and choosing what to use to support their stance on the subject.

How do you think they found out about the orders. Check the articles, follow the links, they all lead to the same .gov site.

reply to post by flyswatter


Just To answer your question about CAC card. If you dont have a Control Access Card and reader and a password all this talk is BS and you will never know what has ever been delievered, payed for or even prayed about. Its basically a fun but mute discussion which only the FEDs knowthe answer too and their stonewalling. You'all have a good night.

IF they ARE the ones snapping it all up, I doubt there would be any easily accessible admin trail, if they were trying to hide that trail. They aren't COMPLETE idiots.

None the less WHOEVER is snapping up all the ammo needs to back off, or really slow it down, that's all I really think about it.

I am simply hoarding up my type stuff in case I NEVER NEED IT. That's good enough for me.

If it is DHS snapping it up for "training", then they have a lot of non-quals there don't they?

Has the societal pressure to be fearful of firearms make it so their folks, who are supposed to be proficient, can't even shoot one right due to fear?

Any instructors out there? You've seen it the same as I... people who bounce lead 6 ft away off the deck while shooting at a 15 yd pistol target.

reply to post by tide88


ooh got one of them

yes the dhs and other fed agencies are stockpiling ammo....no they did not recieve 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.but yes they are requesting and extreme amount of ammo to have on hand. that said, it didnt really occur to me that others would not think or know that there isnt billions and billions of rounds of ammo sitting around in warehouses. they have to be manufactured...now are they stockpiling for an insurrection, civil war or is it a back door attempt to curtail gun ownership in america..if they cant stop guns from being sold..they will buy/order all the ammo they can..in order to keep it out of the hands of the citizens.

and this in is a time where the federal govt is running out of money to pay for....'things'..well execept ammo for use by federal agencies on u.s. soil......i guess we are seeing where thier priorities actually lie...........

what happened to the 20 year war ?



the worst part of the conspiracy crowd is how they never challenge or research anything that supports their worldview. nope, that gets rubber stamped, starred and flagged

reply to post by clearmind


Actually, if you read through the reloading manuals, you will become convinced and proficient (once you try it.)at making ammo that is better than store bought, machine made ammunition.

It's just a simple fact.

Originally posted by URSOCLUELESS
reply to post by flyswatter

 

Just To answer your question about CAC card. If you dont have a Control Access Card and reader and a password all this talk is BS and you will never know what has ever been delievered, payed for or even prayed about. Its basically a fun but mute discussion which only the FEDs knowthe answer too and their stonewalling. You'all have a good night.

You mean "Common Access Card" right?
Just having a CAC doesnt give you access to everything, it also depends on the department, within the department of Defense you work in, what your clearance level is and if you have a need to know.
A contractor or soldier with ultra mega high level super secret clearance that works in administration, wont have the same access to information as someone that has that same level of clearance that works in logistics or procurement.

Well, look at this below. Are these House members conspiracy nutjobs too? Care to explain the ammo shortage which surpassed sales of 2012? Hint, gun owners didn't buy it all up.

15 House members question government ammo stockpiling

Freshman Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif., and 14 of his House peers, are asking the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to explain why it is buying 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.
Source

edit on 25-3-2013 by dreamingawake because: fixed

reply to post by TriForce


Thats what I was fishin for.....later

Originally posted by syrinx high priest

what happened to the 20 year war ?

the worst part of the conspiracy crowd is how they never challenge or research anything that supports their worldview. nope, that gets rubber stamped, starred and flagged

Likewise with this thread. Looks like a troll rubber stamp, star and flag for those wanting to use ad hominem attacks against members of this site.

Originally posted by dreamingawake
Well, look at this below. Are these House members conspiracy nutjobs too? Care to explain the ammo shortage which surpassed sales of 2012? Hint, gun owners didn't buy it all up.

15 House members question government ammo stockpiling

Freshman Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif., and 14 of his House peers, are asking the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to explain why it is buying 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.
Source

Both topics have been thoroughly discussed on other pages. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over again.

edit on 25-3-2013 by dreamingawake because: fixed