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Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by pikestaff
What I find strange is the rumor I was told by a Brit friend of mine about social housing tenants will shortly have to pay $35.00 tax a month on empty bedrooms?
I am losing the plot with this one...
IT'S NOT A TAX!!!!!!!!!! IT IS REDUCTION IN HOUSING BENEFIT FOR THOSE IN RECEIPT OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO PAY THEIR RENT WHO HAVE AN EXTRA BEDROOM!
WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYER FUND PEOPLE TO HAVE HOUSES BIGGER THAN THEY NEED WHEN THOSE WHO DO PAY FOR THEIR HOUSING HAVE TROUBLE AFFORDING IT?edit on 25/3/13 by stumason because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by revmoofoo
I hope you take this in the way it is intended
Could you not rent out the extra room? The reduction in benefits could be easily countered by renting out to a lodger who would also make up any shortfall in other benefits/income...
This is something that has baffled me over this whole "bedroom tax".. The people concerned are losing £14 a week, is it? You could easily charge £100 a week in rent and then some...
Granted, this may not be ideal, especially for disabled persons. Also, now I know this is a touchy subject, but may I ask if you work? I also realise that some disabled people simply cannot, but others are able. If you don't work, is it a case of not being able, or is it that the system is designed in such a way that it would just be financial suicide to work?
Originally posted by doobydoll
Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by pikestaff
What I find strange is the rumor I was told by a Brit friend of mine about social housing tenants will shortly have to pay $35.00 tax a month on empty bedrooms?
I am losing the plot with this one...
IT'S NOT A TAX!!!!!!!!!! IT IS REDUCTION IN HOUSING BENEFIT FOR THOSE IN RECEIPT OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO PAY THEIR RENT WHO HAVE AN EXTRA BEDROOM!
WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYER FUND PEOPLE TO HAVE HOUSES BIGGER THAN THEY NEED WHEN THOSE WHO DO PAY FOR THEIR HOUSING HAVE TROUBLE AFFORDING IT?edit on 25/3/13 by stumason because: (no reason given)
If people are being FORCED to pay it, then it is a tax on poor people!edit on 25-3-2013 by doobydoll because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse
Its too late now britain is now a mono culture of multiculturism,just like the rest of the world is being lined up to be.
Its the only way you can get people to be divided while the rich purebreeds conquer the world.
All these people complaining are racists. These immigrants love the british people and just want to help us best they can. Ethinic minorities claim more in benefits than others because we british are racists. Its nothing to do with immigrants being lazy.
I just feel sorry for the indiginous big issue sellers,prostitutes,beggers,labourers,children,hospitals,construction workers....etc etc they have all become less well off. We are modelled on the great u.s.a now. Then they may fight for us against their own country, way to go, alright,usa usa
We should raise taxes to pay for more immigrants, they are better than british people. Less crime,less drugs,less trafficking.
We should rip down all borders so yhe deserving can travel to places and make places like britain a better place.
yes you should consider being more modest in your dress,a hijab perhaps. Why wont you bend to the your new reallity. Surley your family voted for this,dont complain now.
Originally posted by ObservingYou
Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse
Its too late now britain is now a mono culture of multiculturism,just like the rest of the world is being lined up to be.
Its the only way you can get people to be divided while the rich purebreeds conquer the world.
All these people complaining are racists. These immigrants love the british people and just want to help us best they can. Ethinic minorities claim more in benefits than others because we british are racists. Its nothing to do with immigrants being lazy.
I just feel sorry for the indiginous big issue sellers,prostitutes,beggers,labourers,children,hospitals,construction workers....etc etc they have all become less well off. We are modelled on the great u.s.a now. Then they may fight for us against their own country, way to go, alright,usa usa
We should raise taxes to pay for more immigrants, they are better than british people. Less crime,less drugs,less trafficking.
We should rip down all borders so yhe deserving can travel to places and make places like britain a better place.
British Racism??
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but THESE DAYS racism is aimed AT white people.
Immigration has not only strained our health, social and housing systems, but also brought with it a new breed of racism and sexual assulat circles.
In Birmingham, being a white girl automatically makes me target for sexual assault and racism.
Call me lier.
But check the figures..
Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by pikestaff
What I find strange is the rumor I was told by a Brit friend of mine about social housing tenants will shortly have to pay $35.00 tax a month on empty bedrooms?
I am losing the plot with this one...
IT'S NOT A TAX!!!!!!!!!! IT IS REDUCTION IN HOUSING BENEFIT FOR THOSE IN RECEIPT OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO PAY THEIR RENT WHO HAVE AN EXTRA BEDROOM!
WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYER FUND PEOPLE TO HAVE HOUSES BIGGER THAN THEY NEED WHEN THOSE WHO DO PAY FOR THEIR HOUSING HAVE TROUBLE AFFORDING IT?edit on 25/3/13 by stumason because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ObservingYou
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but THESE DAYS racism is aimed AT white people.
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by ObservingYou
This thread sounds quite racist shame on you guys and girls for being so anti-other ethnicities. That sucks. But the truth is the benefit system is rubbish, and fails those who need it most at times.
And this needs to change, those with drink/drug habits for example, are considered to have a disability. Now I ask you HOW is addiction a disability? We have this absurd culture that spoils those who dont frankly deserve it at times.edit on 25-3-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Freeborn
I think there's a couple of facets to this.
First of all I've got say that I despise Cameron with a passion and dislike the general direction he is taking this country, however, I've got to applaud him for this.
It may be popularism but how many times do we criticise politicians for not listening to 'the people'?
This is long overdue and something the vast majority of people in the UK will support.
The open door immigration policy that this country has operated for far too long has to stop - we don't have the room and we don't have the money to support such a policy.
That is not to say that we should not welcome those who have something to offer and can benefit this country or genuine refugee's - but there has to be a limit.
Perhaps we should also look at why there is a lack of cheap and affordable public housing.
When Thatcher began the Right To Buy programme many of our parents bought their homes - only a fool wouldn't have taken advantage of that offer if they were in a position to do so.
But successive governments and councils etc have completely failed to build any new council housing.
As a result it forced people, mostly young couples, into the private housing market which in turn resulted in spiralling house prices and rental fee's - simple supply and demand.
But in the meantime the population increases, the economy goes tits up and hey presto we end up in the appalling situation we are in at present.
Solutions?
Well first off let's take an open and honest look at this country's immigration policy.
Then let's take a serious look at the prioritisation process for current available council housing with some emphasis being placed on existing British nationals.
Legislate against unscrupulous landlords charging exorbitant amounts of rent.
But perhaps most importantly begin a nationwide house building programme that will offer cheap and affordable housing for the needy and those on low to middle incomes.
As well as the obvious improvement to social housing this would also provide some stimulus to the economy, would take people off benefits and give them real jobs with a decent tax paying wage which they would then in turn spend thus further helping the ailing economy.
It's so simple and obvious to me but then again I'm just a dumb council estate boy.edit on 25/3/13 by Freeborn because: spelling
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by ObservingYou
This thread sounds quite racist shame on you guys and girls for being so anti-other ethnicities. That sucks. But the truth is the benefit system is rubbish, and fails those who need it most at times.
And this needs to change, those with drink/drug habits for example, are considered to have a disability. Now I ask you HOW is addiction a disability? We have this absurd culture that spoils those who dont frankly deserve it at times.edit on 25-3-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)