Originally posted by isyeye
reply to post by Gazrok
It's decisions not to even attempt survival by a large percentage that would give others that are wanting to survive an even greater chance. You'll be leaving your possessions for me to take.
I don't care what the event is, nuclear, asteroid, or a zombie apocolypes, I'm going down swinging, and there isn't a chance in hell that I'll just give up without a fight.
edit on 25-3-2013 by isyeye because: (no reason given)
I think the "nuclear winter" thing was debunked long ago.
A relatively modest 5 Tg of soot, which could be
generated in an exchange between India and Pakistan, would
be sufficient to produce the lowest temperatures Earth has
experienced in the past 1000 years—lower than during the
post-medieval Little Ice Age or in 1816, the so-called year
without a summer.
With 75 Tg of soot, less than half of what
we project in a hypothetical SORT war, temperatures would
correspond to the last full Ice Age, and precipitation would
decline by more than 25% globally.
Nevertheless, a misperception that the nuclear-winter
idea has been discredited has permeated the nuclear policy
community. That error has resulted in many misleading pol-
icy conclusions. For instance, one research group recently
concluded that the US could successfully destroy Russia in a
surprise first-strike nuclear attack.
However, because of nu-
clear winter, such an action might be suicidal. To recall some
specifics, an attack by the US on Russia and China with 2200
weapons could produce 86.4 Tg of soot, enough to create Ice
Age conditions, affect agriculture worldwide, and possibly
lead to mass starvation.
Originally posted by ramuh
One important bit of advice I've heard that wasn't stated in the video for surviving the initial blast/shockwave is you should keep your mouth and airways open as much as possible. If you inhale deeply and hold your breathe when the blast hits , your lungs will explode. This is what kills a lot of people in this scenario.
President Ronald Reagan watched the film several days before its screening, on November 5, 1983. He wrote in his diary that the film was "very effective and left me greatly depressed," and that it changed his mind on the prevailing policy on a "nuclear war". The film was also screened for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. A government advisor who attended the screening, a friend of Meyer's, told him "If you wanted to draw blood, you did it. Those guys sat there like they were turned to stone." Four years later, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty was signed and in Reagan's memoirs he drew a direct line from the film to the signing. Reagan later sent Meyer a telegram after the summit, saying, "Don't think your movie didn't have any part of this, because it did." In a 2010 interview, Meyer said that this was a myth, and that the sentiment stemmed from a friend's letter to Meyer; he suggested the story had origins in editing notes received from the White House during the production, which "...may have been a joke, but it wouldn't surprise me, him being an old Hollywood guy."
The film also had impact outside the U.S. In 1987, during the era of Mikhail Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika reforms, the film was shown on Soviet television. Four years earlier, Georgia Rep. Elliott Levitas and 91 co-sponsors introduced a resolution in the U.S. House of Representatives "[expressing] the sense of the Congress that the American Broadcasting Company, the Department of State, and the U.S. Information Agency should work to have the television movie 'The Day After' aired to the Soviet public."
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by GetLogic
Even if you do hold out in a bunker...eventually, you'll run out of supplies...and venturing onto the surface, will find a world incapable of supporting you (nuclear winter, radiation, fouled soil and water, no flora or fauna, etc.). This is, of course, in an all out nuclear exchange. Of course, this is also why it likely won't EVER actually happen. At least not on a global scale.
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