Earth... Is this Hell?

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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by Knives4eyes
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Well I blindly took the future apocalyptic scenario presented in the bible and mixed it with good ol' illuminati eugenics and population reduction theories.

What would knock off 95% of the world's population? Something designed to target the membrane containing the D gene in Rh+ humans.


OK, nice synthesis of text and current events/conspiracies. Yikes, I'm RH+! Oh well, we're going to die sometime, and I won't be too sorry to move along...



NO that's not the spirit! Why should we, who were created to serve, bow down and accept our fates, we should rebel against ALL negative blood ensuring our survival in the future NOT THEIRS!

F them and their mistakes that led to an apocalypse, they chose to target us in the end to save themselves.




posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Knives4eyes

Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Originally posted by Knives4eyes
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Well I blindly took the future apocalyptic scenario presented in the bible and mixed it with good ol' illuminati eugenics and population reduction theories.

What would knock off 95% of the world's population? Something designed to target the membrane containing the D gene in Rh+ humans.


OK, nice synthesis of text and current events/conspiracies. Yikes, I'm RH+! Oh well, we're going to die sometime, and I won't be too sorry to move along...



NO that's not the spirit! Why should we, who were created to serve, bow down and accept our fates, we should rebel against ALL negative blood ensuring our survival in the future NOT THEIRS!

F them and their mistakes that led to an apocalypse, they chose to target us in the end to save themselves.


Better to accept your fate (yeah, you're gonna die anyway) than to give in to hatred and anger. Just sayin'

Did you know that to call Hell from anywhere in the word, is subject to long-distance rates? Except in Haiti, where it only costs a dime to call Hell, because it's a local call...



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 07:59 PM
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Lol, that's interesting about hell having a local rate in haiti.

What I am doing is not out of hate or anger it is for love, the love of my fellow brother and mankind, yes the result is bloodshed and violence but it's for the love of my people! the love for rh positives!



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 08:10 PM
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What it means to me is this: We never ever really left home, as my HS showed me, and that we are in a simulated reality school/universe. Also, all the full spectrum containing everything is all around us. Earth was created in innocence and beauty however, we have allowed it to be turned over to dark side, but even while saying that, we didn't do that just, more it was a takeover and the school changed hands to the tough love mean ass group. If instead of fighting, we had all said No, tended to our own and meditated prayed, and refused to budge even if they killed us, prefering going home to living in this stuff, it would have ended.
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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 08:28 PM
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I really have no idea why but your post made me think of a self immolating monk that sat down and prayed while waiting for death.




my guess, rhesus factor + genotype if you feel like a clone from earth



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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That would fit well into my point of view, for the entire Kingdom of God is within and simultaneously around us.

Does God place us in Heaven or Hell and for what purpose?
I think we travel between the two to learn good from evil.
But I have learned a lot.
Control is not the means to survival.
We do not need government to tell us to be good people.
God does not need to control us either.
God controlled Jesus to make him a good person.
God controlled Jesus knowing the people would kill Jesus for God's sins.
God... put Jesus in Hell so people would see that God is real.
God allowed Satan to put Jesus in Hell so people would stop worshiping him and love Him.
Satan put Jesus in Hell to prove that Satan's control is not absolute.
You could say that because it was Satan's suggestion to subject Jesus to death having no sin,
But it was God who brought Him back.

Jesus/God said that Faith is the true power of God. (When he healed the sick, did he not say "your faith has healed you" and not "my fathers will has healed you?")
Satan had to show men that he was testing them not because he hates them but because God needs them to have Faith, Trust, Love.
These are the true character traits of the adversary. Faith that God would not create something evil, Trust that God would not destroy him for obeying his programming, and Love for Lucifer was made in the image of the creator.

If there is a man Lucifer hates, it is those who listen to him without thinking for themselves.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Knives4eyes
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I really have no idea why but your post made me think of a self immolating monk that sat down and prayed while waiting for death.




my guess, rhesus factor + genotype if you feel like a clone from earth


Sorry but don't in the least understand what you mean. We are eternal, infinite souls, and cannot ever compromise with evil. When enough see this and stop doing it, earth will change. If they just react and do anything violently they lose. Earth is not hell, never was hell, it is a school however. It is a school, a hijacked one, and then comes the will of a soul, to be good, or to give into evil mafia types. No one should ever ever ever have given in. And maintained dignity. If they hadn't fallen no one could have overtaken their light either.


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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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Huh?



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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I am master of my reality here on earth. I can manipulate the outcome of any situation. Does this make me Satan then. There is torture and hatred and all sorts of bad things on earth. But there is also beauty. There is no beauty in hell, only darkness. If any of you actually believe this is hell, You are living a very sad existence
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posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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You are the reality master, huh? Do you think you could give us a break from wars and dictators? Theyre starting to smell up the place.



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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No, I don't think Earth is Hell, But it is located on Earth. I have proof. I've been there. It was horrific. The sign above the door said this "Department of Motor Vehicles - Registration"
Oh the Humanity! It is a place that makes angles weep, and not like them freaky monsters on Dr. Who either!



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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Nicely stated GetLogic. Earth is like the Two Trees. Just like the rest of the Cosmos! I give ya da STAR. Rock On ATS Sage !



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 04:47 PM
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My thoughts regarding an afterlife are as follows, I believe the fundamental flaw in religions or topics that consider life after death as just another form of fear. Anything that promises immortality is false, this fear of dying makes humans susceptable to an innate amount of BS.

This 3rd dimension is above the 1st and 2nd which are very elementary dimensions that are very limited, even the 3rd dimension is limited but set up as a simulated sensory reality.


If there are beings that exist in a greater plane of existence and we are rumored to be from them, then the 3d dimension is just a way to kill time. If we truly are more advanced then we think, we put ourselves in this situation to experience experiences of the 3rd dimension.

One thing I have to add, if everything is a variation of wave forms and humans are basically another form of that, then if we were to look at kinetic waves produced from sound then in the end, we just dissipate into nothingness, I believe many religions start with a master being that creates himself and everything with sound.



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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Excellent point. Bravo.

So if we're not a product of the evolution of the first and second dimension, and are actually the result of a zero dimensional being creating everything so there would be more than zero dimensions, then God would be this zero dimension being, and we would be its 4TH dimensional clones. Why add the additional dimension of time? In three dimensions, an all powerful being could do whatever it wants. Except limit itself, I guess.

But why impose a limit if it is never to be overcome? We need to remove ourselves from the 4th dimension.
Or rather, remove the 4th dimension from us.
All of my moments of Hell come when I am being extorted and rushed to do a task that goes contrary to my higher goals. These tasks aren't the enemy, but time itself. We're all so worried about dying or failing in this world and ending up as just another lost case, but is that how things should be? Should we ever have to know fear or hunger when the Lord has provided such a beautiful planet with abundant resources?



posted on Mar, 25 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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Ahhh, there is a caveat to that train of thought, Rhesus Factor present in human beings and how it affects reproduction. RH+ has a confirmed source, RH- has 8% unknown untraceable origin.


"and we would be its 4TH dimensional clones" - not all of us I am afraid to say

I've put a lot of thought and searching into the majority of humans on earth, the revelation I deduced was Rh+ genotype humans are the results of cloning. Strangely enough RH+ people have a certain traits and characteristics, namely there might be a sense of unity or a group goal. RH+ can be cloned, I've read some pseudoscience rumors that RH- cannot be cloned.


The biggest kicker is ....HIV and AIDs medicine and treatments....the source for these IS negative blood. The mystery I really want to unravel is what happens to RH+ in the future and why is RH- better suited for the future.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 05:32 AM
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I'm sorry, but what does a body's individual blood cells have to do with God and/or hell?

For the record, the correct answer "the entire kingdom of heaven is within us."



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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Well since so many are born here, that yearn for peace, have gifts that are wonderful music, art, counseling, healing, education, inventors, and some really want to reach children, open their minds, turn paths around as much as they can, I don't think this world qualifies as hell.

But then ask yourself, what is in our face, what items are here that all can see, that thus, need to be overcome:

1. War. And this also involves harming others, controlling others, dominating others, having power over others, and even in this category I would say having our reaction of flight or fight tied into being manipulated by inner city traumas, and crimes, and news of fascism, and injustice, and wars, and feeling fear, but always with a scapegoat bad guy, that they accomplish by making us REACT.

So War, Violence and Reacting. The Beast is the body suit, and the Reacting is a part of our wiring so Beast.

2. Starvation world wide, third world, poverty in first world, and homelessness. These issues involve buying into ISMS. Political right and left, blaming victims, believing you can force slavery. Write off and torture disabled and abuse little children. This is all about domination again. And we're bought off with trinkets and taught to blame everyone, when even a quick sit down and going over the circumstances of others, and even having a toe into disasters, poor health in our own families, should wake us up.

We have to overcome ISMS, political stripes, value the best of equality and the best of freedoms, and set up abundance for all, not scarsity.

With so many things wrong, and only corruption at the top. What do you think it means?

I think it means this:

We're being tested to see if we can grow up here, and realize we don't need leaders, we're all called. To form those citizens groups and become the first active level of a responsible caring and effective government in all our towns, and grow up not needing Big Daddy, but gain in understanding. Not writing people off or cutting people off, but sharing and caring and freedoms and empowerment and abundance and not being dominating or controlling.

And that this is training in a rather intense way at this point, because this world was overtaken by some negatives, so its being used for some tough tests currently.

But we're to reach the next level: where we don't need leaders, where we all are leaders, and where we all help, not hurt.

We're all being called to solve problems and do so with Love and Respect for others, but also focus on abundance for all, in all circumstances.

That is hardly a hell assignment, its a step to become effective Light Beings and helpers. Or cosmic citizens, however one wishes to see that.

Note higher level heavenly type eutopias and positive realms/planets do not use money, and don't have thrones over their heads, no Lord Lord, King King, Domination. No slavery.
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posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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So wars and poverty and slavery and corruption are all symptoms and the master test we're all here for is: to wake up and start to work locally, responsibly, solving problems with true understanding and empathy, growing up, donating land for yurts and homeless and aquaponics, and getting many many diverse grass roots free enterprise ethical businesses going for the children, shy and outgoing, placing teens in practicums and moving them around, not competition job searches, reaching everyone in your community, treating all with respect, no forcing, but encouraging and upgrading everyone's lives and abilities. Being a Family in every community, with no one left off to the side. Being Good Responsible People. Not needing corrupt bosses over our heads in politics, for we grow up and after a short time, doing what they haven't done and encouraging abundance for all and clean energy, clean businesses, they would be put out to pasture without pensions and we'd be only setting up our own in public service.

Growing up. That is the lesson of earth.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 12:42 PM
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Unfortunately, history does not change because the human heart does not change.

Humans must be changed in a fundamental way, and that will not happen until we die, get resurrected, and then glorified. The good and desirable things you speak of lie on the other side of the veil, invisible, but closer than we think or imagine.



posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 07:01 PM
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You're right. The human heart does not change.

All evil in this world is caused by the same thing as all the good in this world.
That is, Love.
Ever hear the saying "Behind every great man is a greater woman?"
Even Hitler had Eva Braun.





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