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How to avoid drones, evade their primary source of "seeing", the thermal imager

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posted on Mar, 23 2013 @ 11:39 PM
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Here is a video I did on how to avoid the prying eyes of drones. A little know how and some simple engineering can defeat multi-million dollar technology.




If you are interested in a little background on thermal imaging here is a 101 video I put together as well:





posted on Mar, 23 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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Long time lurker here of over 5 years, never felt the need to post until now even trhough all the doom porn.

Now, the question i have is, why the need to hide urself from drone if you have nothing to hide?

I had my stupid year as a teen and got on the wrong side of the law many times, when u upto to no good u feel the need to hide thing, even if it may be yourself.

Having grown up and matured since my wreckless years and doing nothing to break the law, i really dont see or feel the need the need to hide myself, even if drones are constantly flying ahead.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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I often wonder the same thing. Drone over head? Big deal have nothing to hide. Maybe it's looking for a criminal or something.
Maybe its because many here want to go to war with their own government?



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 12:16 AM
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But I love the part where everyone forgets that as of yet, there are no war drones en masse flying over your heads, watching you make scones in the nude or whatever raunchy things you don't want being observed doing.

You're all ready with your anti-drone technology, shotguns aimed at the sky, radar traps, IR bouncing windows, radio disruptors and photon torpedoes, that you're all dressed up but have NO WHERE to go!

It's like an episode of the simpsons.

Mob mentality.. "He's bringing peace and love. Break his legs don't let him get away!"



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 12:20 AM
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I am not sure why anyone would be okay with big brother watching your every action. If you aren't doing anything wrong then why the hell do they need to be watching you?



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 12:23 AM
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maybe we should be able to have our privacy . its bad enough that we are filmed and recorded pretty much every where when we are in public , and now some idiots think that in order for us to be "safe" we need to record every one every where . it does not make you a party to criminal activity to want your privacy . and if people feel that they have nothing to hide , why do they draw their curtains closed??



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 02:30 AM
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that's the same argument people made in defense of the Patriot Act

ignorance



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 03:20 AM
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The answer to that is its none of their business why we would be hiding,
the answer could be as simple as we do not wish our privacy infringed
upon, the entire argument of "if you do nothing wrong you have nothing
to fear" hinges on them being perfect at their jobs, which we well know
they are not, they make mistakes, abuse power for personal reasons,
get angry and decide you exercising your rights is an affront to them,
this can be seen in the myriad of videos and cases where its flat out
obvious these folks cant be trusted to do their job well enough
for that argument to hold any water.

For one very easy and clear example is the police in pursuit of that
rouge officer in CA shot innocent civilians without so much as a
verbal warning because they "feared it might be the suspect" even
though these people were driving different color/make than the
suspect...... that is why if you do nothing wrong you may well be
shot without warning and/or beaten, tazed, tracked, and then told
to be quiet about it because it makes them look bad...... yeah nothing
wrong indeed.

Rights must be protected first and foremost, then the question of guilt
can be addressed, whether or not someone is guilty they still have
rights. rights are not given to us by anyone, they are ours from birth,
the only power rights have are what we decide, they can
pretend all day long these are given but this is a fallacy. we took our
rights and said this is how we will be treated, cant do it this way? then
go away we will find someone who can..... this needs to be made clear
again.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 03:31 AM
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I can sort of understand where people are coming from about privacy however if you can be seen outside by a passerby then there is no difference if you are being seen by an eye in the sky.

Honestly there have been high powered satellite borne cameras for decades so I think the hang up with people now is with the word drone. It is an irrational fear as far as I can tell.

The day they can see through walls into my house then I will get peeved but until then they can watch me go on about my everyday life if they wish it doesn’t interfere with how I live in the slightest.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 03:49 AM
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For the most part I agree with you, but if they were to start hunting people for something like poor-folk-status, personally I would want to know this stuff. You never know (especially the way it seems to be going) when simply disagreeing with your government will be enough of a reason to be a criminal....in which case everyone registered here is a potential target. No matter how many of your posts actually agree with the government; they won't sift through millions of posts to find the super rare ones defending policies or actions.
For now, I'm not worried about hiding from them at all, but I recognize there could come a day I might just need it. I'm not planning anything, nor do I have anything to hide but if life has taught me anything, it's never say never.

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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 05:30 AM
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Why worry about one drone camera when you can have 1000s on street lamps, intersections, buildings etc...hehe
Look at London to get a clue...

A drone would not be typically following you unless they pick you for whatever reason and that reason would be a good one to spend the money a drone flight cost.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Peazz
Long time lurker here of over 5 years, never felt the need to post until now even trhough all the doom porn.

Now, the question i have is, why the need to hide urself from drone if you have nothing to hide?

I had my stupid year as a teen and got on the wrong side of the law many times, when u upto to no good u feel the need to hide thing, even if it may be yourself.

Having grown up and matured since my wreckless years and doing nothing to break the law, i really dont see or feel the need the need to hide myself, even if drones are constantly flying ahead.



Drones are but a stepping stone to attaining a vice-like grip on society. Law enforcement is becoming more and more technologically perfect while humans will forever remain imperfect. Humans make mistakes. Most of the time these mistakes are small and even when we get away with these little illegalities, we learn from them on our own.

Right now we say, let drones hunt down killers. But, it won't stop there. Someone will come up with the idea of letting drones hover over public parks to protect people from muggers - another good thing.

Well, how about positioning drones over highways to catch people going five miles an hour over the speed limit?
Hey, speeding is against the law! I can see the new motto just a few years down the line: The Law is the Law, and it Must be obeyed.

Thanks to drones, people in the city will be caught dropping a gum wrapper, or doing a very human thing as peeing behind a building because they can no longer hold it in and there's no bathroom close enough to get to in time. Someone gets a little tipsy at a bar and staggers home, but before he gets home he's whisked off to jail for being drunk and disorderly.

I imagine a society where people are too afraid to leave their homes because, as we all know, government agencies have a tendency to take things too far. Law enforcement already has cameras watching the streets, helicopters have camera equipment that can detect the growing of marijuana inside your home. If I'm not mistaken, police cars have scanners that can scan every license plate of every parked car on a street just by driving by them.

And now, we have drones watching us from the sky.

It's only a matter of time before the wonders of technology will turn this life into a total nightmare.

Point being: I don't want to know how to avoid drones. I want to know how to make it illegal to use drones in our own country, against our own people.

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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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I totally agree on that part, They are just a stepping stone to bigger more invasive technology's. Take a look at the internet? At first it seemed like an amazing idea to us all, Slowly but surley its just as controlled and watched as our streets, No matter where u are, what you are doing, Someone is most prob watching.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 08:49 AM
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I think that guy has been playing way to much Call of Duty and now thinks hes permanently in a war zone.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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sometimes people get pretty wrapped up in their own paranoia. if you are constantly bombarded by anti-government rhetoric, your thinking tends to gravitate in that direction. when you only hear what's wrong with government, you do not hear what's right. if you tend to limit your scope of social connection to people that all believe this way, you feed on each other, feel a comraderie, and isolate yourself from objective thinking.
i always thought that this was pretty elementary, or should be



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx
sometimes people get pretty wrapped up in their own paranoia. if you are constantly bombarded by anti-government rhetoric, your thinking tends to gravitate in that direction. when you only hear what's wrong with government, you do not hear what's right. if you tend to limit your scope of social connection to people that all believe this way, you feed on each other, feel a comraderie, and isolate yourself from objective thinking.
i always thought that this was pretty elementary, or should be


Much truth in what you said....Overseas where I frequent there are strategically placed cameras in all the major cities. When someone is robbed or attacked they usually are able to go to the section and block pull the video and boom there is your B.G. doing his dastardly deed.

It is not like there is an army of video watchers monitoring 100s of cameras every minute of the day. Vids are pulled for an area when there is a problem.

Also 30,000 drones will not be airborne all the time everyday, but, I still have not figured out why they need that many in the sky over the homeland in the first place. Janet certainly has her fingers in the government cookie jar, no? .... Police department helicopters and aviation programs are extremely expensive and no doubt a police drone on the job would save all kinds of money over time so that is about the only thing I can come up with. I have seen some really mean people captured because there was a camera.

Maybe a roid cop will get busted when he steps over the line and thinks he is Judge Dread.......Judge, jury, punish-er, and executioner.... at least it will make it harder for them to lie and CYA. So in some ways there are benefits to having cameras but as with anything there is a possibility for abuse...
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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
Right now we say, let drones hunt down killers. But, it won't stop there. Someone will come up with the idea of letting drones hover over public parks to protect people from muggers - another good thing.

Well, how about positioning drones over highways to catch people going five miles an hour over the speed limit?
Hey, speeding is against the law! I can see the new motto just a few years down the line: The Law is the Law, and it Must be obeyed.

How is any of this different than stationing a police officer in a park or on a highway? The fact that the drone's sensors are slightly better than the Mk I Human Eyeball? You're still talking about law enforcement observing public behavior in public spaces.


Thanks to drones, people in the city will be caught dropping a gum wrapper, or doing a very human thing as peeing behind a building because they can no longer hold it in and there's no bathroom close enough to get to in time. Someone gets a little tipsy at a bar and staggers home, but before he gets home he's whisked off to jail for being drunk and disorderly.

Which happens every night even where there are no drones. Don't piss on buildings, and you won't have a problem. If you are getting so drunk you have to piss in public, or on strangers' property, you have bigger and more personal problems than the national security state.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Peazz
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I totally agree on that part, They are just a stepping stone to bigger more invasive technology's. Take a look at the internet? At first it seemed like an amazing idea to us all, Slowly but surley its just as controlled and watched as our streets, No matter where u are, what you are doing, Someone is most prob watching.


We are already seeing laws that are either trivial or working against common man. It's now ILLEGAL to not have health insurance. We'll see this transform into it being illegal to not get 8 hours of sleep every night, because health insurance will refuse to pay for accidents that happen because of fatigue and tiredness. If you drink soda, eat cake, consume more than double the portion of anything, you are choosing to risk your health, so off to jail you go!

It is now illegal to drive without wearing a seat belt. This law is made trivial by the fact that you can jump on a motorcycle any old time you want, throw your kid on behind you and go flying down the highway. No seat belt to protect either of you. School buses don't even have seat belts.

Personal note: My daughter would have been ground into hamburg if she had been wearing a seat belt. Her car slid on black ice and slammed into a telephone pole that completely demolished the driver's side. Luckily she wasn't wearing one and jumped to the passenger side, unharmed. The law simply can't tell you what kind of an accident you will get into, but it's certainly trying.

With so many laws the only place lawmakers can go is into the ridiculous now.
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posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

Originally posted by jiggerj
Right now we say, let drones hunt down killers. But, it won't stop there. Someone will come up with the idea of letting drones hover over public parks to protect people from muggers - another good thing.

Well, how about positioning drones over highways to catch people going five miles an hour over the speed limit?
Hey, speeding is against the law! I can see the new motto just a few years down the line: The Law is the Law, and it Must be obeyed.

How is any of this different than stationing a police officer in a park or on a highway? The fact that the drone's sensors are slightly better than the Mk I Human Eyeball? You're still talking about law enforcement observing public behavior in public spaces.


Thanks to drones, people in the city will be caught dropping a gum wrapper, or doing a very human thing as peeing behind a building because they can no longer hold it in and there's no bathroom close enough to get to in time. Someone gets a little tipsy at a bar and staggers home, but before he gets home he's whisked off to jail for being drunk and disorderly.

Which happens every night even where there are no drones. Don't piss on buildings, and you won't have a problem. If you are getting so drunk you have to piss in public, or on strangers' property, you have bigger and more personal problems than the national security state.


You have no idea if I'm an internet cop or not, so you better not argue with me ever again. Or, you'll be in handcuffs because it will become a law that makes it illegal to verbally challenge anyone in law enforcement. Don't believe this could happen? Just wait.



posted on Mar, 24 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli

Originally posted by jiggerj
Right now we say, let drones hunt down killers. But, it won't stop there. Someone will come up with the idea of letting drones hover over public parks to protect people from muggers - another good thing.

Well, how about positioning drones over highways to catch people going five miles an hour over the speed limit?
Hey, speeding is against the law! I can see the new motto just a few years down the line: The Law is the Law, and it Must be obeyed.

How is any of this different than stationing a police officer in a park or on a highway? The fact that the drone's sensors are slightly better than the Mk I Human Eyeball? You're still talking about law enforcement observing public behavior in public spaces.


Thanks to drones, people in the city will be caught dropping a gum wrapper, or doing a very human thing as peeing behind a building because they can no longer hold it in and there's no bathroom close enough to get to in time. Someone gets a little tipsy at a bar and staggers home, but before he gets home he's whisked off to jail for being drunk and disorderly.

Which happens every night even where there are no drones. Don't piss on buildings, and you won't have a problem. If you are getting so drunk you have to piss in public, or on strangers' property, you have bigger and more personal problems than the national security state.


You have no idea if I'm an internet cop or not, so you better not argue with me ever again. Or, you'll be in handcuffs because it will become a law that makes it illegal to verbally challenge anyone in law enforcement. Don't believe this could happen? Just wait.


I think you are proving my point, thank you. For those of you who don't see a problem with this I think you had better practice being...perfect. We are all law breakers. We each break hundreds of "laws" everyday. There are so many laws on the books jigger is correct, the only thing left is the ridiculous. Just wait until the slippery slope empowers the enforcers to monitor you through technology and tax you through fines for EVERYTHING you do wrong. Think about red light cameras. If you have not experienced these count yourself lucky. Oh, didn't come to a complete stop when making that right turn? Here is your fine. Oh, someone else was driving your car? Too bad, here is your fine. You claim you didn't break the law...sorry, guilty, pay the fine. Just wait until your whole life is monitored for revenue..or worse..then you will see what I am talking about. It is not just the "Tin Hat" aspect of drones. And no, I don't spend too much time playing video games. I don't even own a console.





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