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Oh, you mean dabbling in the occult is now a "revelation"?
. . . it was completely new information, and quite the revelation . . .
The symbol of the phoenix, the bird that is reborn from its ashes, is extremely important to occult secret societies and, consequently, to the occult elite.
While the phoenix represents spiritual rebirth on an individual level, it can also represent the rebirth of the entire world from its ashes – as a New World Order.
occult symbolism
Originally posted by Awen24
What the Bible says, in essence, is that we can't reach God, or godhood. Ever. "Your sins have separated you from God", and we can't close that gap in and of ourselves.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Awen24
Oh, you mean dabbling in the occult is now a "revelation"?
. . . it was completely new information, and quite the revelation . . .
And this avatar of yours, is that part of your occultism that you picked up from Misslerism?
The symbol of the phoenix, the bird that is reborn from its ashes, is extremely important to occult secret societies and, consequently, to the occult elite.
Yes . . "seriously".
Seriously dude?
That is what your thread is about, you don't have to use that word because the thing that is the topic of the thread is by definition, occult, which means 'hidden'.
. . . nobody has said anything about the occult.
I think I did. What did I miss?
. . . if you have some kind of evidence that what Chuck Missler teaches isn't consistent with the Bible, then please do post it.
Anyone who studies the occult would disagree, with the phoenix bird being one of the most fundamental symbols, as mentioned in the article I quoted.
My avatar has nothing to do with the occult, nor with the elite or the illuminati.
Originally posted by Awen24
What the Bible says, in essence, is that we can't reach God, or godhood. Ever. "Your sins have separated you from God", and we can't close that gap in and of ourselves.
ExquisitExamplE
reply to post by Awen24
I will repost my question from several posts earlier, for you perhaps missed it.
Originally posted by Awen24
What the Bible says, in essence, is that we can't reach God, or godhood. Ever. "Your sins have separated you from God", and we can't close that gap in and of ourselves.
Thank you all for your thoughts and interactions here, this thread is very interesting and I enjoy reading your ideas and beliefs, for they allow me to strengthen my own. There is much material here, but I would like particularly to respond to this point, to the idea that we are somehow separate from what you term as "God", but with whom I am more comfortable terming, "The Infinite Creator".
I will pose a question which I hope will draw us closer to what I perceive as truth...
Is God Infinite?
"God's own standard" is to me an odd way to put this, and one that I don't think was meant by the writer of the book of Hebrews in the New Testament.
This, then, creates a conflict: God cannot and will not tolerate sin, but God is also infinitely loving, infinitely forgiving, infinitely gracious.
How are those two things reconciled?
God's own standard says that "without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin." (Hebrews 9:22)
"Often you have desired to hear these sayings that I am speaking to you, and you have no one else from whom to hear them. There will be days when you will seek me and you will not find me."
His followers said, "Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it."
Jesus said, "Where there are three deities, they are divine. Where there are two or one, I am with that one."
Jesus said, "If they say to you, `Where have you come from?' say to them, `We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established itself, and appeared in their image.' If they say to you, `Is it you?' say, `We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living father.' If they ask you, `What is the evidence of your father in you?' say to them, `It is motion and rest.'"
Jesus said, "Look to the living one as long as you live, or you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see."
"I am the one who comes from what is whole. I was given from the things of my father. For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness.
Whoever has ears to hear should hear. There is light within a man of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine it is darkness."
ATS: If "Yahweh" is a positive polarity entity, how is he "wrathful" and "jealous"?
HH: Does Yahweh have Free Will? Would you like to think of yourself as reasonably positive? Can you still be wrathful and jealous at times? Is Yahweh a Macrocosm of you?