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Originally posted by jimmyx
" Our energy independence will be a done deal by 2020. We won't need a drop from Saudi Arabia."
not so fast....might want to read this
www.nytimes.com...
Originally posted by coltcall
reply to post by TauCetixeta
"...In the meantime, underneath it all, Obama and Soros are oil people. The bulldozers have been clearing a path all along. Obama and Soros won't turn down the profits of the pipeline.
And you talk about the Bakken Oil Fields, the Keystone Pipeline...and what could end up being the costliest divorce on record:
The most expensive divorce in history? Oil tycoon worth $11.3 BILLION faces record-breaking settlement after his wife of 25 years files for divorce alleging he had an affair.
Originally posted by TauCetixeta
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, this Senate IS good for something once in awhile. If those on the coasts don't want this...fine...the map doesn't show it running there. A good many in the Midwest sure want it though, and we'll all try real hard to deal with whatever downsides may come. The upsides of construction and economic benefit are far greater though.
For once, Congress does something I'm happy about! ....now will it live to see the end of the process? Hmm..
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs here in the USA.
Meanwhile, Cyprus is in chaos. It's a good day to be an American.
American Exceptionalism wins every time.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I'm not trying to uproot you from your own beliefs, I just think that we need to be honest and look at this for what it is.
It's not American oil.
There's no guarantee it will be sold in America.
People that do not want the pipeline will lose land through imminent domain.
and
Transcanada gets to rake in the profits while the pipe runs right through the middle of our nation, just to be shipped elsewhere.
Is it just me that sees we may just be getting the short end of the stick?edit on 23-3-2013 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)
American Oil does not stay in America
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
According to the deal struck by Transcanada and the US unions (Teamsters and AFL-CIO), they expect to create 7,000,000 job hours and 13,000 jobs.
Do the math:
7,000,000 hours divided by 13,000 = 538 hours of work per job
538 hours divided by a 40 hour work week = 13.5 weeks of work.
13.5 weeks of work for the regular Joe while the unions, politicians and Transcanada make out like thieves.
Plus, after the contract is up Transcanada can bring in their own crews because there is no guarantee the upkeep and maintenance will be done by American workers.
Add on top of that the fact that Transcanada is only required to take out a $200 million insurance policy to pay for any environmental impact it may have, but $200 million cannot recover the loss we will experience if some of the best groundwater and farmland in the country is ruined.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I'm not trying to uproot you from your own beliefs, I just think that we need to be honest and look at this for what it is.
It's not American oil.
There's no guarantee it will be sold in America.
People that do not want the pipeline will lose land through imminent domain.
and
Transcanada gets to rake in the profits while the pipe runs right through the middle of our nation, just to be shipped elsewhere.
Is it just me that sees we may just be getting the short end of the stick?edit on 23-3-2013 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by TauCetixeta
YES!
That's good news for the Western Canadian economy Big Time!
I guess in the final analysis the US didn't want Canada selling all the Oil to the Chinese via the Northern Gateway.