U.S. Senate Approves the Keystone Pipeline: Final Vote 62 to 37 !

This is the 1st time that the U.S. Senate has voted on the Keystone Pipeline.

It passed with overwhelming support.



The final vote revealed that 17 Democrats joined with the Republicans to approve the

Keystone Pipeline.

Read more here:

U.S. Senate Approves Keystone Pipeline

Im all for creating jobs and stuff...and im going to school for welding so this is extra beneficial for me.

But i dont think companies have the capability and honestly dont even care about making sure this wont rip the environment a new *#& hole.

to much can go wrong BP proved that

Well, this Senate IS good for something once in awhile. If those on the coasts don't want this...fine...the map doesn't show it running there. A good many in the Midwest sure want it though, and we'll all try real hard to deal with whatever downsides may come. The upsides of construction and economic benefit are far greater though.

For once, Congress does something I'm happy about! ....now will it live to see the end of the process? Hmm..

Originally posted by DankKing420
Im all for creating jobs and stuff...and im going to school for welding so this is extra beneficial for me.

But i dont think companies have the capability and honestly dont even care about making sure this wont rip the environment a new *#& hole.

to much can go wrong BP proved that

There was no reason to delay the inevitable. Oil from North Dakota has already

arrived in Philadelphia refineries. Our energy independence will be a done deal by 2020.

We won't need a drop from Saudi Arabia.

can't wait for the first oil pipeline break to happen, and spill oil onto a staunch republicans farm land or cattle ranch.

Originally posted by jimmyx
can't wait for the first oil pipeline break to happen, and spill oil onto a staunch republicans farm land or cattle ranch.

The radical environmentalists may not wait for it to happen.

I think common sense will prevail. There are hundreds of pipelines running through the

area. The Keystone Pipeline is just 2 more.

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can't wait for the first oil pipeline break to happen, and spill oil onto a staunch republicans farm land or cattle ranch.

Haven't heard of many big pipeline problems.The Alaskan pipeline has been operating fine for years. It is about time Congress(Senate) actually do something beneficial for this country.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, this Senate IS good for something once in awhile. If those on the coasts don't want this...fine...the map doesn't show it running there. A good many in the Midwest sure want it though, and we'll all try real hard to deal with whatever downsides may come. The upsides of construction and economic benefit are far greater though.

For once, Congress does something I'm happy about! ....now will it live to see the end of the process? Hmm..

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs here in the USA.

Meanwhile, Cyprus is in chaos. It's a good day to be an American.

American Exceptionalism wins every time.

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you do realize that we dont even use our own oil now? energy independence is a sham when it comes to oil.

its a global commodity. American Oil does not stay in America

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by DankKing420
Im all for creating jobs and stuff...and im going to school for welding so this is extra beneficial for me.

But i dont think companies have the capability and honestly dont even care about making sure this wont rip the environment a new *#& hole.

to much can go wrong BP proved that

There was no reason to delay the inevitable. Oil from North Dakota has already

arrived in Philadelphia refineries. Our energy independence will be a done deal by 2020.

We won't need a drop from Saudi Arabia.

not so fast....might want to read this
www.nytimes.com...

Originally posted by TauCetixeta
This is the 1st time that the U.S. Senate has voted on the Keystone Pipeline.
It passed with overwhelming support.

The final vote revealed that 17 Democrats joined with the Republicans to approve the
Keystone Pipeline.
Read more here:
U.S. Senate Approves Keystone Pipeline

You really should go back and read the article you linked.

The Senate made a show of support for the Keystone XL Pipeline on Friday, when a bipartisan majority voted in favor of an amendment to urge its approval. Read more: dailycaller.com...

It has NOT been approved.

All they have done is vote on an amendment for funding.

The amendment, proposed by North Dakota Republican Sen. Jon Hoeven, would “establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund to promote … the construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline.” Read more: dailycaller.com...

Originally posted by DankKing420
reply to post by TauCetixeta

 

you do realize that we dont even use our own oil now? energy independence is a sham when it comes to oil.

its a global commodity. American Oil does not stay in America

There won't be any sham narrative when the year 2020 arrives.

The message from the environmentalists will be " Oh, never mind."

reply to post by BritofTexas


Dream all you want to.

The Keystone Stone Pipeline will happen.

The U.S. Senate is just showing some leadership in Washington D.C.

It is revealing that 17 Democrats joined with the Republicans.

Originally posted by jimmyx
not so fast....might want to read this
www.nytimes.com...

I do find it amusing that the Rabid Right who scream hatred of Socialism at every opportunity seem to think "We the People" own the oil that corporations suck out of the ground.

But I'm sure it will be Obama's fault when the price at the pump doesn't go down.

Who says Americans don't understand irony.

reply to post by TauCetixeta

I find it interesting how some on the environmental side of things use examples like a pipe leak as a scary thing....without realizing, apparently, folks in this part of the country know full well that will happen and accept it. Oil is a dirty business after all, as are so many things we've come to depend on in life.

If it leaks, it'll get cleaned up and the soil will likely be scraped and replaced to get the contaminated soil out. Just as it's always been done in clean ups. No biggy and things are only scary when some let their imagination run wild toward scenarios that just don't happen in real life. lol.. (It sure beats pushing oil development into the deep ocean where no such simple clean up can be accomplished, eh?)

As someone else noted, the Pipeline isn't approved so far that we'll see sections being fabricated for trucks to take out to construction sites just yet....but progress is progress and it's a happy thread for news. Thanks for the bright spot of the day.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by TauCetixeta

 

I find it interesting how some on the environmental side of things use examples like a pipe leak as a scary thing....without realizing, apparently, folks in this part of the country know full well that will happen and accept it. Oil is a dirty business after all, as are so many things we've come to depend on in life.

If it leaks, it'll get cleaned up and the soil will likely be scraped and replaced to get the contaminated soil out. Just as it's always been done in clean ups. No biggy and things are only scary when some let their imagination run wild toward scenarios that just don't happen in real life. lol.. (It sure beats pushing oil development into the deep ocean where no such simple clean up can't be accomplished, eh?)

As someone else noted, the Pipeline isn't approved so far that we'll see sections being fabricated for trucks to take out to construction sites just yet....but progress is progress and it's a happy thread for news. Thanks for the bright spot of the day.

edit on 23-3-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)

It's not just the Keystone Pipeline.

No one thought that North Dakota would be supplying oil to a refinery in Philadelphia.

North Dakota is Online Also

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Like I said, sure, we have to live with welfare. We can't have people starving in the streets. It looks bad.

And famine leads to pestilence and those nasty plagues.

So, hand out that welfare and those food stamps. It's an even trade.

In the meantime, underneath it all, Obama and Soros are oil people. The bulldozers have been clearing a path all along. Obama and Soros won't turn down the profits of the pipeline.

And you talk about the Bakken Oil Fields, the Keystone Pipeline...and what could end up being the costliest divorce on record:




The most expensive divorce in history? Oil tycoon worth $11.3 BILLION faces record-breaking settlement after his wife of 25 years files for divorce alleging he had an affair.


US oil baron faces losing half his £7.4billion fortune in what could be the most expensive divorce in history.

Harold Hamm could break the £1.1billion record for a settlement, set by Rupert Murdoch, when he and his wife Sue Ann go their separate ways after 25 years together.

According to the law in Oklahoma, Mr Hamm may have to hand over half the wealth he accumulated running the petrol giant Continental Resources.


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Being an Albertan myself, I'd be happy about this if our province were getting a fair share of royalties from oil sales. Sadly, our government pretty much gives the oil away to the big companies. A country like Norway, with less oil and less time in the oil business, has managed to stockpile an absolutely ridiculous amount of money and doesn't have a cent in debt, while we're running deficits even though we have more oil than Saudi Arabia. Our government doesn't seem to want to pull big oil's giant pointy stick out of its arse and actually charge some meaningful royalties. Not only that, but the government is doing this stupid policy of taking bitumen in lieu of cash, so even the pitiful royalty rates aren't even being paid half the time, and they're accepting bitumen that is really already theirs in exchange for actual money. Oh, well, I guess this is what happens when the same party has been in power since 1971. .. they run the place like their own personal playground.

I'm not against the pipeline in principle, as long as the environmental impact is minimized. I'm not a Luddite or anything (heck, I have an engineering degree :p) but I don't like the idea of big oil taking all the profits and the province getting nothing.

reply to post by TauCetixeta

Since you mention North Dakota and their Oil Boom....and N.D. is central to the whole Keystone Pipeline debate and topic, I took a moment to go quantify the debate with solid numbers on the impact for normal people.


(Source: Bureau Of Labor Statistics)

Most states would kill to have that rate, I'm thinking. Especially right now. Of course, North Dakota didn't JUST start their Oil development. This started quite some time ago...and it shows.

North Dakota Unemployment Data 2003 - Present

That first chart is what we'd all so much like to see for the nation, I'm sure.

Originally posted by DragonsDemesne
Being an Albertan myself, I'd be happy about this if our province were getting a fair share of royalties from oil sales. Sadly, our government pretty much gives the oil away to the big companies. A country like Norway, with less oil and less time in the oil business, has managed to stockpile an absolutely ridiculous amount of money and doesn't have a cent in debt, while we're running deficits even though we have more oil than Saudi Arabia. Our government doesn't seem to want to pull big oil's giant pointy stick out of its arse and actually charge some meaningful royalties. Not only that, but the government is doing this stupid policy of taking bitumen in lieu of cash, so even the pitiful royalty rates aren't even being paid half the time, and they're accepting bitumen that is really already theirs in exchange for actual money. Oh, well, I guess this is what happens when the same party has been in power since 1971. .. they run the place like their own personal playground.

I'm not against the pipeline in principle, as long as the environmental impact is minimized. I'm not a Luddite or anything (heck, I have an engineering degree :p) but I don't like the idea of big oil taking all the profits and the province getting nothing.

Province getting nothing?

Isn't the Keystone Pipeline helping the overall economy in Alberta?

I can tell you as an American we would rather get our oil from you than from the

Middle East.