Sochi 2014 ....just read

Well, I don't normally do threads like this , but after looking at

a map . something hit me hard and the pieces came together right

before my eyes , I really hope i am wrong and i hope nothing will

happen but.... well let me just explain .

Firstly i have been researching the struggle between Chechnya and

Russia for a few years now , it's constant still to this day ,

people may say their is no war in Chechnya anymore but this cant be

further from the truth . many freedom fighters are still battling

in the mountains of KAVKAZ , i don't have much time to go into

details of why , many actions lead up to Chechnya wanting to break

free of Russia . the main cause now is an establishment of Sharia

law . and a free independent Islamic state in Chechnya and many

surrounding areas , yes the majority of southern Russia republics

are of the Islamic faith . .

OK ! now Sochi 2014 ...many many problems here .. number 1 Sochi is

in a danger zone it boarders Georgia and might as well be part of

KAVKAZ ( Caucasus mountains) where many Mujahadeen (holy warriors)

are still very much engaging Russian forces and Apostates of the same faith .

In this photo i have circled Sochi in red , and outlined the KAVKAZ

range in green , along with arrows pointing to Chechnya and

dagestan . to give you an idea of how close Sochi is to the danger

zone .


I think it's a bit to close , butt.... I know what your thinking , OMG a Terrorist Attack ! and i am thinking the possibility of the mujahadeen staging an attack could happen , and i only say this because of an Artical that i read a while ago that was posted on a well known website that the Mujahadeen use as a communication line , to the outside world , i will post the screenshot of the artical ,and Clippings ,however i will not post the link to the website until otherwise cleared by a MOD ,cause the website is blacklisted .

Keep in mind that this site is really Anti "putin" i can't says i blame them

Here is a clipping from the same page , this is found at the bottom of the page

A few years ago, the Caucasian Mujahideen warned that they were not going to allow the Olympics to be held on the sacred lands of the Circassian people with no actions against them and that they intended to carry out a number of special sabotage operations during the Olympics. In this case, there will be no security guarantees for the sportsmen. This warning was not revoked by anybody, it still stands. It is worth mentioning that Western countries boycotted the Communist initiative called Moscow Olympics in 1980 in retaliation for Russian occupation of Afghanistan. The precedent is there.

So , this was a warning that was given a few years ago , right around the time i started researching the conflict in southern Russia , i do recall reading this .. and it worried me very much , however i have since changed me stance on the situation , due to articals that were later posted on the website and statements from Leaders of the Mujahadeen, i also recall another news cliping that i witch i will try and find , claiming that Russia would sate a false flag operation ... ..

i have to wrap this up , cause i am running out of time , but this is what i think is going to happen

i think that the Plausibility of a false flag operation could very well be in order , and they have a perfect excuse to blaim it on the "mujahadeen" if this happens , then the US can very well get involved and have the perfect excuse to back Georgia , and start establishing a foot hold and possibly come down from azerbaijan to invade IR AN . This means that Iran would be completely surrounded ,

I have to get back to work , but the possibility of something happening is High , i hope this give you an idea of what i see , i am sorry i put this thread together very quick , but ill be updating it , to present more info to back my claim , feel free to add anything !

Humbly

LSH

******NOTE TO MOD ***** I am looking for clearance to post the links to the clippings , please if you can let me know if i have permission to do this , Humbly

LSH

Here is a wiki. Link to give you some idea about the ongoing war. And how it started and still continued to this day. I know its wiki. And its not very accurate. But it will do en.m.wikipedia.org...

some more info , surounding Sochi from the website

According to British media, a group of PMs is preparing to address the UK government at a hearing in the British Parliament on human rights and on the case of Russian lawyer Magnitsky who was killed by Putin's KGB in Moscow prison two years ago. They will demand to tell Putin that his presence as a guest at London Olympics will not be welcomed, unless Russia takes steps to improve the situation with human rights.

Read at your own Risk

i have decided to add links to the news clippings i posted , if the MODS wish to remove the links , feel free

link

link

I just realise how lame my title is. Is their anyway to edit it? After 4hrs? I was in a rush to make the thread.

Cohen is obviously racist, as he is concerned about the "demography of people with Muslim religion" (reference is to the article cited in the OP's third link above).
Cohen is right in so far as Sochi as a Winter Olympics site seems problematic from both sides.
Here on ATS it would be preferable to be non-partisan, but the situation in the Caucasus is indeed polarized.

I do not support terrorism, but then I am personally not exposed to these barbaric wars - Putin's Russia has been a far cry from even trying to handle peoples different from the core majority of Russia (white, Christian). I don't know how I would react if I were Chechen, Muslim, and I would remember that the Russian Army got away with murdering my family for mere material-colonial interests, then even their own Russian journalists who tried to expose war crimes. Plus if armed, right-wing paramilitary gangs would routinely murder my compatriots on the street, people who went to work or study in Russia, merely for having darker skin and speaking Russian with an accent. Yet I would obviously stop short of blowing up innocent Russian kids as terrorists did.

The war was so barbaric on both sides that neither seems clean - it is fairly obvious that Russia should have let go of all its colonies long ago if it wants to be a modern democratic state. However, the leaders chose granting independence partly on the basis of mere resources and geopolitics. That is ugly. They also choose not to do much against the widespread racism inside Russia.

On the other hand, some of the Muslim majority ex-Soviet republics which did get their independence when the Soviet Union broke up have turned into veritable medieval pits of hell, as far from the democratic West as can be - in some cases you could argue that perhaps even Brezhniev's late system was more humane than the rulers of some of these new countries... In terms of systematic human rights abuses and nepotism they are probably worse.

reply to post by Kokatsi


very well put , i agree with you fully , but understand that they want an Islamic state , this is the reasons i keep seeing given by the leaders of the Mujahadeen,

I see Theocratic fanatism and fundamentalism as very dangerous, though culturally I love many things about Muslim cultures - especially their diverse and very different kinds of music.
However, the new resurgence of fundamentalist Muslims with Sharia law everywhere from Africa to the Caucasus etc. strikes me more as a misguided response to Western Christian colonialism and racism (and from the POV of most Caucasians, Russia is a Western empire). When fighting turns tribal, there are no more ideals. Even though all honest religions were originally about ideals.

So it seems to me that part of the cultures colonized by - then excluded from - mainstream white empires turn towards (several kinds of) a worldwide Muslim fundamentalism, as personification of a collective shadow projection.

The victors of World War One cheated Germans in the Versailles Treaty, and their misguided reaction was Nazism. Something similar is going on here though in the guise of praying five times a day and so on. They could face what I consider their real problems are - economic, spiritual etc. - but they choose to emphasize a tribal and Theocratic side. Requires no thinking just a very active amygdala.

Originally posted by Kokatsi
I see Theocratic fanatism and fundamentalism as very dangerous, though culturally I love many things about Muslim cultures - especially their diverse and very different kinds of music.
However, the new resurgence of fundamentalist Muslims with Sharia law everywhere from Africa to the Caucasus etc. strikes me more as a misguided response to Western Christian colonialism and racism (and from the POV of most Caucasians, Russia is a Western empire). When fighting turns tribal, there are no more ideals. Even though all honest religions were originally about ideals.

So it seems to me that part of the cultures colonized by - then excluded from - mainstream white empires turn towards (several kinds of) a worldwide Muslim fundamentalism, as personification of a collective shadow projection.

The victors of World War One cheated Germans in the Versailles Treaty, and their misguided reaction was Nazism. Something similar is going on here though in the guise of praying five times a day and so on. They could face what I consider their real problems are - economic, spiritual etc. - but they choose to emphasize a tribal and Theocratic side. Requires no thinking just a very active amygdala.

yes in in regards to the "Sharia" side of things , i noticed that many people have a misunderstand of how and what it is exactly , i tried very hard to address it in another thread of mine , i see your point of view , but understand that this "fundamentalism" became a big issue when the "Muslim umma " in a way was forced to find a strength to fight with the enemy or "invading force " now things are out of control .. indeed both sides share the "wrong"

Also , i just find it strange the the Olympics communion would even let this be Accepted location for the games , but i guess they have done it before so ....

anyway

Second

reply to post by LightningStrikesHere


Thanks for posting this, this is information that alot of people don't see, or think about.

For me, it just points to a coming WW3 that is being staged by the elite to destroy ALL religion = jewish, christian, and islam. (See albert pike's ww3 reasoning)

Looking at russia, and it's possible alliances (including offering to "bailout" Cyprus for the oil exploration and development rights - and it's near monopoly on the gas spicket to the EU) Are the EU and the US going to allign with russia to wipe out "evil fundamentalist islam"?

Obviously, I am of the mind that this is being orchestrated, and to hell with all of the dead, innocent peoples of the world, on every front.

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

Thanks for posting this, this is information that alot of people don't see, or think about.

For me, it just points to a coming WW3 that is being staged by the elite to destroy ALL religion = jewish, christian, and islam. (See albert pike's ww3 reasoning)

Looking at russia, and it's possible alliances (including offering to "bailout" Cyprus for the oil exploration and development rights - and it's near monopoly on the gas spicket to the EU) Are the EU and the US going to allign with russia to wipe out "evil fundamentalist islam"?

Obviously, I am of the mind that this is being orchestrated, and to hell with all of the dead, innocent peoples of the world, on every front.

indeed thank you for your reply ,

let me tell you i agree with you

Humbly

LSH

I feel that. This subject is really a subject that people don't want to touch . Come OL post sometcan hing I know you can add something to this thread

reply to post by LightningStrikesHere


I think that it's a subject that doesn't want to be touched because the elite have programmed us to be so "politically correct" that we'd consider ourselves a bigot if we looked at something and made some kind of "judgment" of it.

Well, I'm making a judgement that it's just war, war, war, with untold human slavery and un-needed human misery, based on some elites procurement of more funds or resources for themsleves.

It needs to stop - but how?

I just want to add that I am anti-socialism and anti-communist - that is not the answer. Freedom is.

1. They don't have the rocks to.

2. Even if they do mass false flag and organized by government so I would not be worried.

3. Doom porn is a bad thing and manifestation is the worse things of all to create with such thoughts.

4. Information seems solid but I am sure the right parties are already aware the moment you posted your thread. In the end there is no need to freak out or panic.

Take care

Originally posted by PsiOpSky
1. They don't have the rocks to.

2. Even if they do mass false flag and organized by government so I would not be worried.

3. Doom porn is a bad thing and manifestation is the worse things of all to create with such thoughts.

4. Information seems solid but I am sure the right parties are already aware the moment you posted your thread. In the end there is no need to freak out or panic.

Take care

Not freaking out at all. And it was more or less a prediction

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by LightningStrikesHere

 

I think that it's a subject that doesn't want to be touched because the elite have programmed us to be so "politically correct" that we'd consider ourselves a bigot if we looked at something and made some kind of "judgment" of it.

Well, I'm making a judgement that it's just war, war, war, with untold human slavery and un-needed human misery, based on some elites procurement of more funds or resources for themsleves.

It needs to stop - but how?


The only way it will stop. Is to ......it wont! If we have not gotten it by now.... then it will never stoop as long as their is a human need for things

I just want to add that I am anti-socialism and anti-communist - that is not the answer. Freedom is.

edit on 25-3-2013 by Happy1 because: (no reason given)

So now they are going to.bridge a connection to terriorism and chechnya ? Because of the boston bombings wow

reply to post by LightningStrikesHere


I need to re do this thread..i feel ime onto something

You do realize what you are referring to as "Freedom Fighters", are also known as Islamic Terrorists. Beslan School? Moscow attacks?

People from the West calling them "Freedom Fighters" would be the same as Russia referring to Al Qaeda as Freedom Fighters.