Originally posted by merkins
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
I could be wrong but I believe the figures shown at this link dispel the idea than non-EU immigration is much higher than EU migration.
So as far as I'm concerned the EU migrants situation is far more dire than non-EU. I also believe that non-EU immigrants tend to benefit the economy
more than EU migrants who often come and claim welfare benefits way before they start working, and even then more of their income goes back to their
As for people using the terms white as a synonym for English/British I totally agree with you.
The best waves of immigration we ever had were those from the indian subcontinent and the afro-carribeans, after the war. They came to Britain because
we needed them and they cherished our British ideals and they really made an effort to integrate and adopt our way of things. It's sad but true that
EU migrants often come here for a free lunch and free healthcare.
Totally disagree with this.
As someone who has front line public service experience for well over ten years, actually the immigrants of the 50's and 60's did benefit the UK,
what we have seen from the last ten years, at least, is nothing like back then.
Now I will say Eastern European criminal gangs are the most violent and ruthless that I have ever encountered, but many Eastern Europeans themselves
are hard workers and have more in common with us culturally than many non-EU immigrants, will integrate and will learn the language.
Many non-EU immigrants that I have encountered across London, do not want to integrate, they don't even want to learn the language, they feel that
they are owed a life of luxury from Britain and they don't care about Britain or about the British way of life.
The only non-EU people that I have known, on the whole, to integrate, are Indians, they integrate and they are hard workers, as well as bringing up
their kids with the same ethics. Unfortunately, I can't say the same generally for Carribeans, you could have second and third generation born
British and they will still class themselves as [insert Carribean nationality], the men have a real need to be macho as well as an attitude that they
have a right to everything, regardless and the young males will almost always be involved to some degree, in crime. Those from Africa vary, but are
mostly quite strict and hard working, however, Nigerians and Somalians seem to have this need to commit crime, fraud/theft for Nigerians, everything
else for Somalians and Somalians will treat properties and areas like a landfill and are so verbally abusive towards people that I can't believe how
they are allowed to get away with it.
Then you have the drug cartel Vietmanese, I have yet to encounter one that isn't involved in growing weed and wrecking a property in doing so.
However I will say for them and Chinese (actually most South East Asian), they never claim benefits.
Turks and Kurds will try to integrate, will try to work but usually while killing each other.
Many Asians, out side of India, are notorious in getting only one member of a 50 member household to learn English.
Now all this may seem like rantings of a racist bigot etc etc, but this is my experience and pretty much every one I know throughout various sections
of front line public services experiences. I'm not saying the English are great, look at the benefit class long term unemployed/never been employed.
However, that was a class created by Labour to allow for uncontrolled immigration and now we have young kids who want to be like mummy, have kids, get
a council property and live off of benefits. I don't blame them at all, they are products of a corrupt and ruthless government.
Immigration can benefit a country, but it must be minimal and beneficial, at present it is neither and when you are out there, as I am, it becomes
very apparent as to just how destructive it is, EU and Non-EU. The country is swamped, public services are failing and falling apart, we can't take
anymore because if we do, we nail the coffin lid shut on this country.