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Originally posted by GuidedKill
I'm ashamed at all of you who came on here ranting and raving about one man killing one horse while every second thousands of men women and children are slaughtered everyday in senseless violence and war. Where are all your sympathetic post and outcry for them? If all of you animals rights people give even a fraction of the compassion towards your fellow humans the world would be a better place.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by GuidedKill
I'm ashamed at all of you who came on here ranting and raving about one man killing one horse while every second thousands of men women and children are slaughtered everyday in senseless violence and war. Where are all your sympathetic post and outcry for them? If all of you animals rights people give even a fraction of the compassion towards your fellow humans the world would be a better place.
Now c;mon, you of all people shock me to have that logic and reasoning.
All the evils and wrongs of a billion people don't make the outright wrong of an individual ANY less than what it started as, taken in isolation. I'm surprised to see anyone make the case that 'We shouldn't care because much worse happens" or anything to that effect.
Much worse is what we all spent the other 98% of the day debating around here...this 2% was about this turkey and his apparent brain fart in thinking it would be productive in ANY way to execute a horse on video for the world to see.
I've been wondering from the start....isn't animal cruelty an issue here? He shot a perfectly healthy animal for personal gratification and demonstration for a cause. Seems almost textbook to abuse to me? (Food or not in other context)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by dreamingawake
Well, I'm glad you came into the thread with your years of fighting this. Perhaps you can answer me a straight question without industry fluff and euphemisms to cover the reality.
I know ALL too well how turkeys are ...processed... for lack of any other word for that 'moment' of turning from animal to product. I know how cattle get processed. The larger the animal gets, the uglier the process becomes, in my experience, for the sheer level of effort and force required vs EVERY animals will to live beyond almost all odds.
So..my question in your time for this subject..How precisely DO they propose to kill the horses for large scale meat production? Surely not by gunshot. Even cattle go with a variation but not outright shooting them ...(insanely dangerous for everyone around, if nothing else...doing it hundreds or more times a day). Still..it can't be a nice thing to "efficiently" kill an animal of that size in a factory line style?
“He shot a horse, that’s what he eats, it’s not against the law to slaughter your own horse,” De Los Santos said. “Now, putting it on YouTube, I would not have done that.”
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by dreamingawake
Thanks for the reply and interest. It's a distasteful subject from start to finish, to be sure. No real GOOD way to do it, I guess. Not when death is the ultimate necessary end state. Well... You've apparently spent far more time on this with thought and effort than I. What do you think is the most humane/effective method? I assume the punch you're talking about is similar to the set up adapted as a murder tool in "No Country For Old Men"? I'd read the book and it described it as being from cattle slaughterhouses. Seems a very effective method, if used properly?
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Whats wrong with what the guy did? For the rest of us .... This is part of why I personally don't care for the idea of breeding horses as a food animal. That's me though and just one of many reasons.
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by goou111
Was the horse lame and/or did he eat the horse afterwards?
I know we're not supposed to be cruel to animals, but I don't think it's right to keep them just for pets either. When you start thinking things like, "i love my animals blah blah that man needs to die blah blah", then you've become perverted.
Originally posted by GuidedKill
I'm ashamed at all of you who came on here ranting and raving about one man killing one horse while every second thousands of men women and children are slaughtered everyday in senseless violence and war. Where are all your sympathetic post and outcry for them? If all of you animals rights people give even a fraction of the compassion towards your fellow humans the world would be a better place.
Originally posted by rival
You CANNOT eat horse meat because horses are cute and smart and we ride them.
But you CAN eat pig meat because pigs are.....ummm.....uhhh....errrrr.....because
....we don't ride them.
So the rule is....You cannot eat meat from animals that we ride.....or that are cute....or that have
fluffy fur....or that make us go..."awwww"
But BIG ugly animals are okay, preferably REALLY BIG ugly animals (like cows). But not REALLY REALLY
BIG ugly animals....like elephants.
So the rule is...we can only eat medium sized big ugly animals, that we don't ride, that are not
too smart, that are not too cute, and that are tasty and nutritious.
.....oh yea I almost forgot...it's okay to eat fish as well.....as long as they are stupid and slimy and
don't look like dolphin or porpoise...
edit on 23-3-2013 by rival because: (no reason given)