posted on Mar, 27 2013 @ 03:57 PM
I give credit to the OP for starting a thread that led to a lively debate/argument. I do have to say that just making statements without any
references to back them up is not a good way to prove a point. No sources listed for any of the claims made, and many mistakes that can be proven to
be so. Pope Paul 3 was not the founder of the Jesuits, that would be Ignatius of Loyola. Massive orgies in the Vatican? I need proof. I am not saying
it never happened, it may well have, but I need more than just your word for it.