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Remember that repetitive presidential promise to “cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year”? As 2014 and full implementation of Obamacare get closer, it is crystal clear that won’t be the case.
Obamacare’s most onerous insurance regulations will directly cause insurance premiums to skyrocket, particularly in the individual and small group markets.
While there are many provisions that will increase premiums, two will have the most expensive impact:
Age rating restrictions. Obamacare limits variation in premium costs to a ratio of 3 to 1 based on age. But as Heritage research shows, “The natural variation by age in medical costs is about 5 to 1—meaning that the oldest group of (non-Medicare) adults normally consumes about five times as much medical care as the youngest group.” This means that under Obamacare, young adults will pay significantly higher premiums than they would have prior to Obamacare, and older adults will pay only slightly lower premiums.
New benefit mandates and cost-sharing rules. Heritage expert Ed Haislmaier explains, “The new law adds a number of health care services that insurers must cover and in some cases restricts the ability of insurers and employer self-insured health plans to impose limits on the amount of services patients can consume. This combination will drive up health plan costs and premiums for both individual insurance and employer-group coverage.” In addition, Obamacare prohibits cost sharing on many preventative services, which will dramatically increase utilization of those services—pushing premiums even higher.
Originally posted by texas thinker
Not true. Just a bunch of right wing propaganda. After all the anointed one said our health insurance and health care costs would drop under his plan. And he is the best thing since sliced bread right? NO way he was fibbing.
Originally posted by bjax9er
ten years from now you will be begging for those big bad insurance companies.
So, your defense for obamacare is that healthcare costs were already going up really fast?
That's pretty weak don't you think?
You will get no argument from me that our healthcare system has sucked for decades, but obamacare was supposed to fix the system, not make it worse.
Obama has to know those numbers, but still apparently was in favor of increasing costs and not reforming the system all to get some votes from idiots who believe in "Free" medical care.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
The argument from your OP and the source of your OP (from none other than conservative Heritage) is predicting significant premium increases, and the sole blame laid is sourced from assumptions about Obama's healthcare law. But we know from data collected over the years, from research, that healthcare companies have been increasing their premiums significantly since well before Obama's healthcare law. This is a fact. Your source is wrong.
What do you mean Obama's healthcare law was supposed to fix the healthcare system? This law has yet to fully impact the system, we're yet to see any real effects. The law was signed in March 23 2010 and the major provisions of the bill have only really come into effective over the last few months. Your source is even predicting that this healthcare law will dramatically impact on premiums (as if these premiums have not been going up already). So why are you jumping the gun?
You first say that you believe our system prior to this law was broken as well, but then you claim that supporters of this law are just idiots looking for a free hand out in the way of healthcare. I'm now curious what your own solution is? Because if you're of the opinion that we should just leave healthcare corporations to do what they please in the market and continue to ration out certain groups to drive up demand and profit, then clearly you didn't have an issue with the way the system was before.
Originally posted by proximo
Where does it say anything about healthcare costs not increasing the last few decades?
Obamacare’s most onerous insurance regulations will directly cause insurance premiums to skyrocket, particularly in the individual and small group markets.
Ok, so your going to go with that huh, every insurance company is warning rates are about to skyrocket, scores of workers are being forced part time,
It couldn't be that millions more have to be covered by the same people paying for insurance
Uninsured Americans cost the American healthcare system an additional $49 billion annually, according to a new, recently released government study. That figure includes those with incomes well above the poverty line, who leave hospitals with unpaid tabs that are the cost-shifted to the private side of the health insurance market.
My biggest problem with Obamacare is if you are going to go to a socialist system then go all the way.
2. Require that everyone pays the same rate, that isn't medicare/medicaid. No more haggling BS or special treatment, everyone should pay the same.
Put a cap on malpractice - this will have a much larger effect than you might think, because much of the testing done now is not needed but is done just in case the doctor gets sued, he can say look I was really thorough.
4. Allow importation of pharmaceuticals from anywhere - there is no reason the US has to pay for all the worlds drug development costs
5. Allow private clinics to offer their own insurance
Originally posted by texas thinker
Not true. Just a bunch of right wing propaganda. After all the anointed one said our health insurance and health care costs would drop under his plan. And he is the best thing since sliced bread right? NO way he was fibbing.
Originally posted by links234
Originally posted by bjax9er
ten years from now you will be begging for those big bad insurance companies.
I find that highly unlikely.