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Originally posted by marg6043
Every time I see a demon look like spirit all I do is ask him to show his true self get what! is nothing more that what we want to see, if you really believe in a satan or demon it will come to you and it will show to you they way you want it to be.
But is not real and it has never been real, I know people that spend their life thinking about death and hell when is not real, heaven is a place where souls gather after their human and earth experiences were we all go, liberate yourself from the mind made and church made satan and fulfill your role on earth, because after you finish is a better place to go and that place is home, and you can call it heaven.
Originally posted by saint4God
I know what you're saying and I'm sure it's true for you, however the reason for my encounters was I didn't believe in anything beyond the human realm. I dared whatever existed be it Zeus, Satan, etc. to show itself and I would believe. I got my answer but not the way I expected. When a person encounters the Devil, there is no doubt. None, whatsoever whether you believe in him or not. Had I been smart about it, I would have looked for God first. It would've saved me a lot of pain. I don't expect anyone to believe me hence the lack of detail. Most people have to experience these things for themselves. Myself included.
Originally posted by Zipdot
I've asked God to show himself to me dozens of times with no effect. What gives?
Zip
Originally posted by Jonna
I think that the christian reponce would be something to the effect of those that made it into heaven would never choose to sin in the first place. That would be one way to get around the freewill issue.
Originally posted by bet555
Most likely the people that make it to heaven do not want to do anything other that what is good in thier heart anyways. B/c god is love and god knows all and god made us he knows the people he made good and the people that he made bad. So all the people that he made good are going to heaven and all the people he made bad are going to go TO HELL.
So why even ask these questions you have no chance of making it to heaven. Why do you care / I am tired ... of people asking questions that are only put in peoples mind to create ditubance.
Originally posted by saint4God
The fact that the Devil had no problems showing himself had me thinking there must be an absolute good that could get me away from him.
Originally posted by saint4God
Free will in heaven: Example - Will you be having chocolate ice-cream or vanilla? Both are good, both are choices.
[edit on 2-11-2004 by saint4God]
Originally posted by Amuk
The post about freewill got me to thinking what about after we die?
Can we still sin in heaven or will freewill be taken away once we get there?
Are we allowed to have freewill here just to be turned into a robot once we die?
If we will still have freewill what is to keep us from turning heaven into the same crap we have earth?
In other words can we sin in heaven? What would happen then? whould we go to hell?
Originally posted by Amuk
Originally posted by saint4God
Free will in heaven: Example - Will you be having chocolate ice-cream or vanilla? Both are good, both are choices.
[edit on 2-11-2004 by saint4God]
But how about stealing the OTHER guys pie?