Exposed: Secret Presidential Chemtrail Budget Uncovered – Congress Exceeds Billions To Spray Popul, page 2


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reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 12:14 PM by deadeyedick
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If that were true then we would have no need for chemtrails
I guess next yoy will try to tell me something like skinwalker ranch is not a time portal for shapeshifters and such and that it is not being heavily guarded now to prevent the timelines from being altered.
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reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 03:38 PM by tsurfer2000h
And this is what your using for a source, and they say something like this...

Interestingly enough, Monsanto has just released an Aluminum Resistant Seed which is Genetically Modified to tolerate Aluminum in high levels in the soil. Is this a coincidence, or do they know something?


intellihub.com...

That doesn't take a genius to understand why they have aluminum resistant seeds...

Aluminium is the third most abundant element (after oxygen and silicon), and the most abundant metal, in the Earth's crust. It makes up about 8% by weight of the Earth's solid surface.


en.wikipedia.org...

Coincidence...no

Science...yes


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 03:46 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by deadeyedick





If that were true then we would have no need for chemtrails


Interestingly enough there has never been anyone that can actually tell you exactly what chemtrails are for, and I can't understand why...



reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 04:19 PM by waynos
reply to post by fireyaguns



Can you highlight the presidential budgetary information? I've been looking all day and must be a bit thick cos I can't see it.


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 04:57 PM by CommanderCraCra
Look, if geo-engineering is going on without our knowledge, you all should be very, very thankful. If they haven't already started, they sure as hell better, ASAP. The arctic is in the process of cracking up as we speak.

To my very weak understanding, the polar jet stream has been malformed to the extent that once the ice melts over the summer, it will likely not reform in the winter as is suspected. So we're likely ice free from either this summer, to maybe a few out yet. Then we're certainly past the point of no return. This was predicted by most climate models as highly unlikely to occur before mid century. Well, we've set off ten of the ten known positive feedback mechanisms for AGW, and none of the models prior to 2010 account for a single one of them.

Putting it all together, we're screwed as a species, or at the very least civilization, unless we take drastic changes, such as geo-engineering. We must be doing whatever the hell we can right now to damage control the situation. The risk of letting things go as is, is far too detrimental compared to the potential risk of acting. If we do nothing, toast. If we do something and are still toast, what of it?

Nothing in the report indicates that geo-engineering is already happening that I can see, though, again, I sure as hell hope they start with a quickness if it's not already being done.

The biggest problem we face is the delayed reaction of our emissions to causing actual changes in the atmosphere. The delay is thought to be at least a decade, meaning the temperature changes we're currently seeing (assuming geo-engineering is not happening), is from prior to 2004 at the least. Much industrialization, and carbon emissions has come about in the last decade with the rise of China and India.

You can tell how weak the report is by this same stupid statement that gets improperly judged over, and over again by fools across internet forums:

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.” – Richard Haass- Club of Rome


This in NO WAY indicates that we are deliberately causing this event, that AGW is a scam, or whatever the hell else the fools choose to judge it as. It is what it is. A realization of our nature, and the inevitable repercussions of our collective actions.


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 04:57 PM by Elliot
www.guardian.co.uk...

What's with the 'maybe' they're spraying us with dangerous substances! The British government were FORCED to admit doing it by Norman Baker, a Lib Dem MP.


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:10 PM by CommanderCraCra
Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
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post by deadeyedick





If that were true then we would have no need for chemtrails


Interestingly enough there has never been anyone that can actually tell you exactly what chemtrails are for, and I can't understand why...


I think what you mean by this is that you deny AGW as a reality, so when someone says it's for geo-engineering, you try and call shennanigans. That's why you feel okay to make the above statement.


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:12 PM by waynos
Originally posted by Elliot
www.guardian.co.uk...

What's with the 'maybe' they're spraying us with dangerous substances! The British government were FORCED to admit doing it by Norman Baker, a Lib Dem MP.


Maybe you haven't read or fully understood this eleven year old 'revelation'? It has been discussed on here many times.

It did not involve emitting contrails from high flying aircraft at all and did not involve the use of chemical weapons or any substance known to be harmful. Just because a cold war experiment of dubious value was carried out 50 plus years ago it is not really evidence of chemtrails today if you apply a bit of common, is it?

For instance other things we did in the past that we have no evidence for happening now include using lunatics as public attractions (Channel 5 output notwithstanding), importing slave labour from Africa and firebombing German cities.

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reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:19 PM by mrthumpy
reply to post by Elliot



Except they didn't spray US with DANGEROUS substances did they?


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:20 PM by mrthumpy
reply to post by RoScoLaz



How long do you think it would take for anything sprayed 7 miles up to come down and where do you think it would land?


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:21 PM by CommanderCraCra
reply to post by mrthumpy



Yes. The US military has had various aerial operations involving chemical/biological agents over the US, Canada, and Japan that I recall over the decades. Reports come out many years later. It certainly is possible that clandestine operations are currently, or were recently, underway. Still, we don't have solid evidence to make these claims.


reply posted on 21-3-2013 @ 05:26 PM by CommanderCraCra
reply to post by Neocrusader



Could the opposite not hold true? Pure speculation, but what of an chemical/biological agent dispersed from the sky, which would activate unless you are a good sheep and take your regular flu jab as directed by big bro.
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