Can a man be raped by woman?

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posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:30 AM
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Ok. This might get controversial a bit. But I didn't start this thread to mock or the disagree...I'm actually looking to hear some first hand information on how this happens. Apparently it does.

This is a follow up thread on www.abovetopsecret.com...

One of the male members responded (I'm not gonna quote it) the he got raped and it can happen.

Now, what are we talking about there ? At first instance, I have a hard time accepting that I (a man ) can be raped by a woman. There is always that physical strength issue that bothered me about these cases.

Let's see what Wiki says about rape....




Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse, which is initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or with a person who is incapable of valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, or below the legal age of consent.[1][2][3][4] The term is most often defined in criminal law.[2][4]


I don't want to talk about men being raped by other men. Let's stick with rape being committed by a woman against a man.


This is how I see it:

Can a man be forced to have sex with a woman? By forced, I mean, by using force. We are, for the most part, faster, stronger. So how can an average woman force an adult man to...hm...have sex ?

Well wiki says also...."abuse of authority or with a person who is incapable of valid consent". Now, abuse of authority...that I can understand...could happen.

But...is it really rape ?

Does a man who is coerced or through abuse of authority made to have sex with a woman, feel fear ?

I understand he is an unwilling participant, but he probably doesn't fear for his life (unless he's being raped at gun point by a woman ???, and even then...how many cases have you heard...raped by a woman than killed). He is probably just angry for being put in that position. Does he scar for life because of it ? Does he battle emotional trauma ? Does he suddenly start twitching at a woman's touch ? All traumas of rape are derived form fear and pain inflicted. Since there probably isn't any fear and very probably no pain either...is it really a rape?

You could be far worse off being in a drunken bar fight, yet most of us have been in a fight or two during our lives. Are we emotionally scared for life because of it? Not me.

Yes...I'm from the camp that would say..."man up"...I admit it. You had involuntary sex...but I wouldn't call it rape.

So any male members care to share their story of "rape" by a woman...I'm interested to read about the circumstances in which this can happen.

I'm sure some members will consider this primitive thinking...I wont argue that




posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:41 AM
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Involuntary sex is the definition of rape!

Of course a man can be raped. It happens and happens far more often than you would believe. Some men will not fight back for the reason that either men don't hit women or that our justice system is as silly as are some of your comments. (No disrespect intended)

There are also gang rapes of males especially during events such as hens nights. They paid the stripper to strip not to have sex but a group of women are more powerful than a single male.

There are many women who may be stronger or have higher levels of combat training than many men.

Stereo types abound in this group of misfits we call a society.

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ETA You said "All traumas of rape are derived form fear and pain inflicted." That is wrong. While those may be present many or even most rape victims feel defiled and helpless. Fear and pain are present but they may not be the principal motivators. Rape victims abound with a complex set of presenting problems and it is a difficult field to work with.
edit on 21/3/2013 by pheonix358 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:49 AM
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reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 


A man can be raped by woman, it is just unlikely.



But...is it really rape ?


Well, it is. Rape is coerced sex, and there may be psychological trauma even if it is coerced by other means than violence, and with no pain.

But I do think that it makes very large difference how exactly the rape happened, the level of fear, trauma, duration and physical pain. This should be reflected in punishments, too.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:51 AM
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reply to post by pheonix358
 


Appreciate your input.




men will not fight back


Most women try to fight back while being raped, unless threatened with a weapon maybe. If they get to court, it helps their case a lot if they fought back.

So a woman pins you down, you don't fight back....and that's a rape ?

If somebody is doing to me something that I don't want being done to me...I will always protest or fight back. I think most people (not just men) will. If you don't protest...you either like it or don't care about it.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:55 AM
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I'm just wondering-under duress,in a situation like this,being forced into something the guy does'nt want-how does he get it up?That's the one thing i find strange about this-a woman has the equipment that makes the act of rape easy-but does'nt the guy have to be aroused for it to ..you know,well,get it up?
I just cannot imagine that's going to happen easily if he's feeling victimised or traumatised?



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 04:55 AM
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reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 


NO MEANS NO!

It is that simple.

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posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:00 AM
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Think back to when you were a teenager and had problems keeping it down and you will see that anything is possible. As an aside erections occur whenever men enter REM sleep.

It is as good a defense as idiots that think women only have to squeeze to avoid rape.

No means no.

P



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:02 AM
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Unfortunately, the evolution of definitions of the word has done no justice for women who are victims of actual rapists. The whole "changing the mind" thing I never understood.

So many cases of "he/she raped me" but uh, I didn't say anything to stop it, and I just said "yes" at the time 'cause I was scared." But they should've known I didn't want it...

If a female boss coerces her underling to bed her after hours, that is suddenly rape now... Unfortunately, "coercing" is such a vague and loose definition.

Some of the circumstances that would define a woman/man rape.. Well... I don't know how the guy could live with himself believing that's what had really happened.

Unless a girl roofies you, with a healthy dose of viagra in the drink, and you wake up with no memory and morning cedar that won't go away, I hazard to guess you weren't raped. You may be a complete idiot though.

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I feel bad for the women that really did have it happen to them, they screamed bloody murder, the suspect in their case was caught, and lo and behold the defence takes up the argument equating it to one of the loose, vaguely defined versions.

"Your Honour, this is no different than _______ vs. ________...."

And a few serial rapists will get off because of it. And a few dumb high school students will get life when they are the ones who really did nothing with criminal intent.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by Raxoxane
 


Think back to when you were a teenager and had problems keeping it down and you will see that anything is possible. As an aside erections occur whenever men enter REM sleep.

It is as good a defense as idiots that think women only have to squeeze to avoid rape.

No means no.

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If I'm not in the mood, or not attracted to the girl, my flag wont even get up to half mass. If you want to say a girl jumping on top of you when you're sleeping is rape, then you are kinda stretching it. If it's your wife, girlfriend... That's just a healthy wake up call.

As for some amazon-ish type cat burglar that jumps into helpless men's bed at night....

Hmmm....

Hate to see that on the media.

Dozens of men would be leaving their doors unlocked shortly after...



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:08 AM
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reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 

theme is worth discussing. but i don't think woman can rape man. it seems like an erotic fantasy of sexmaniac



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:08 AM
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Pics, or a man being raped by a woman didn't happen. What would a man being gang raped by women look like? So pics please, and no fakes or staged, they have to be from the incidents themselves, filed with the police report and the psychological profiles of the participants. Multiple angles, no dupes.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by MarioOnTheFly
 


NO MEANS NO!

It is that simple.

P


Except when "NO" is said in order to satisfy a need for attention.

No wonder there is still confusion when it comes to the old in and out.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:32 AM
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Physically a man should be able to prevent a woman from raping he. But that doesn't mean that she cannot possess extreme seductive abilities to mentally subdue he if say he felt wronged by her and didn't want to feel weak and immediately give in to her sexual seductions as to make he forget the issue at hand that he felt wronged bout.. In a situation like this I can see a possible OP related act as far as a male being mentally overtaken. But again for most males healthy enough I think its hard to have a woman physically subdue but mentally its possible depending on the strength of the males mind... Now a female non human can add new dynamics that can make this possible physically as well, to add.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:42 AM
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Here is one case. The man probably deserved it too.



A hairdresser from Meshchovsk, a small town in Russia, subdued a would be robber at her salon, then tied him up in the back room and raped him for three days.


Read more at www.inquisitr.com...
edit on 21-3-2013 by killerworm51 because: fix link



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:42 AM
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The answer is yes indeed they can, a news story i read a few months ago
went something like this: Man breaks into shop to steal some things, women
somehow disables him and ties him up, feeds him nothing but Viagra and
well i doubt i gotta tell the rest there, so it can and does happen just much
more rare than the other way around.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:53 AM
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possess extreme seductive abilities to mentally subdue



Absolutely possible. But does that make him a victim? It happens in nature all the time. Females or males use their seductive abilities to attract the other gender to mate. But if she managed to subdue you, obviously not by force, than by all accounts, you liked something about her...he cried wolf after the sex, but not during...because he felt good probably...

After sobering, he than suddenly remembers that he has a wife and children...presto...he was coerced...to preserve the innocence of the mind.



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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I red about that case few years ago...

I'm obviously sick...because I had fantasies of that happening to me



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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If somebody is doing to me something that I don't want being done to me...I will always protest or fight back. I think most people (not just men) will. If you don't protest...you either like it or don't care about it.

Acute fear alone can root a victim to the spot and not move an inch.

Not a rape case, but regarding being so terrified that it becomes impossible to run away even though the opportunity is there:
A few years ago, my ex came home and beat me to an absolute pulp after he had been out drinking and drugging with his friends. It was totally unprovoked, and I don't know to this day what had got him into such a rage. He just walked in and began slapping me, then punching around my head, shoulders, back, he punched me to the floor and began kicking. This attack lasted hours, because as I was about to lose consciousness he would stop for long enough for me to regain my senses before starting again. In between assaults he would taunt me that he hadn't finished yet. I felt helpless and knew I couldn't defend myself against him, even if I tried. He knew it too.

I was terrified for my life. I didn't know when it would end. I really believed I was going to die that night.

A few hours later, he fell asleep on the sofa, just a couple of feet away from me. I could have tiptoed to the door and run into the street to go for help, but I was frozen rigid with fear that he might wake before I got to the door and would beat me again. I sat in the same room for hours. I really couldn't physically move. I wanted to, but I just couldn't. I was too terrified to. It was so awful that remembering it even now reduces me to tears.

I was too scared to even call police to report what had happened after he left (I pretended to be asleep when he woke up), I thought that if I did and if they let him go, he might come back, he might kill me next time.

So yes, acute fear can totally immobilize a person, you can't fight back, you can't run away from the danger even though you're free to, the attacker can do what they want with no resistance from the victim. Nothing to do with the victim liking it, or not caring about the attack.

The body heals - but the terrible memory of it stays forever



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
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possess extreme seductive abilities to mentally subdue



Absolutely possible. But does that make him a victim?


not really for he gave in or allowed his will to experience..



posted on Mar, 21 2013 @ 05:58 AM
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Has anybody seen Fat Pizza?

Pauly (Red Cap) gets raped by a bunch of fat girls.






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